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Hrbaty Bagels Haas In Final Set Decider 6-3 4-6 6-0

I rate Haas on hard very highly, his performance at the Us open this year proved to me that one day he might just win a major. He should of beaten Davydenko easily in the QF but as we all know he did not.

My point here is i have a hunch that Tommy hass has serious mental problems that are getting in the way of a awesome talent flourishing. On his day he can beat the mighty federer and in my opinion has the 2nd best forehand in the game.

I fear that when things dont go his way like today he mentally explodes and loses matches he should not, i remember a match at wimbledon this year vs Tommy Berdych, he was shouting and raving, and im not describing safin like outbirsts which make you chuckle, he was really angry and i could see red horns slowly comming out of his head.

I just hope he can learn to relax and this will harness the exellent ability he undoubtedly has.

I mean to get bagled by that joke of a player hrbaty is ridiculous.
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Haas is not winning a major. If he played the German Closed Championships then he would.

Haas has the 2nd best forehand in the game? Ok, as long as you think that. If so, does that mean he has the best backhand in the game, even though it's clearly his better shot.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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No george you are so wrong, his forehand is clearly genius. When he was down a double break in the final set vs davydenko this year, he unleashed some forehand shots that i have never seen before to get him back in the match, and these were not just 1 off forehands, they were repeatedly comming at davydenko.

Davydenko led 5-4 15-40- 2 break back points for hass. Haas was down 4-1. IN the final set.

It was a breathtaking passage of play by a player who in my opinion has the ability to win a major.

Now i know davy served some monsters and eventually won that match, but that mini comeback has convinced me that if haas can get over his mental problems he has a chance on hard.
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Haas is not winning a major and I have watched enough Haas matches through his years, the forehand side breaks down a lot more than the backhand side.

ivan, I have seen Roddick hit some excellent backhands, this doesn't mean it's his best shot and it's the same for Haas, his backhand is a lot better.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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we must agree to disagree then.

I am not only talking about his forehand, his all round play on a hard surface is good enough to win a major. His movement, his return of serve and his serve itself.

We will just have to wait and see.
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I fear that when things dont go his way like today he mentally explodes and loses matches he should not, i remember a match at wimbledon this year vs Tommy Berdych, he was shouting and raving, and im not describing safin like outbirsts which make you chuckle, he was really angry and i could see red horns slowly comming out of his head.
I'd say, he doesn't explode - he implodes...he can't use the power of the explosion, he completly falls apart. No transition of angriness into power...
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Haas is not winning a Slam, his time has gone and had his chance to do it already. I mean that is obvious as night follows day.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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ivan, I have seen Roddick hit some excellent backhands, this doesn't mean it's his best shot and it's the same for Haas, his backhand is a lot better.

but you can't compare Tommy's FH with Roddick's BH

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but you can't compare Tommy's FH with Roddick's BH
Not even close. Haas's forehand is respectable, but clearly inferior to his backhand, hence the differential between them isn't as great as Roddick's.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: Hrbaty Bagels Haas In Final Set Decider 6-3 4-6 6-0

Ah well.... Being a long time Haas supporter, I've come to expect these kind of losses. Haas = worst mental in the gam. Period.

On his forehand, it is quite a strong shot and clearly way more dangerous than Roddick's backhand. He doesn't seem to go for winners on it all that often though. His backhand is a much better shot,a nd he has more confidence in it too. I agree that Haas was absolutely smashing his forehand for winners left right and centre against Davydenko in the fifth set, but it is no way reliable.

Its pretty obvious that Haas has the game to win a major, but not the mind. If he had a decent mental and no injuries he should of had at least 3 slams by now. But hey, at least hes interesting to watch unlike some players...

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Of course Haas will win majors, he has beaten Federer before.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Of course Haas will win majors, he has beaten Federer before.
Your cynicism is too funny GWH. Anyway, I made a comment about this and I don't know if this is in the 'Stats' sticky, but is this the Year of the Bagel? There seem to have been quite a number of them.

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Haas' career is done if you ask me. It will go downstairs from here.
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It happens quite often, but EVERYTIME it gets even more frustrating. Self-destruction is never fun to watch, especially when it's some as talented and versatile as Tommy. He could've won a major or two had he not been a hothead, but I don't see it happening in the next couple of years. (He's 28, remember!?)

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