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FED end his career on a HIGH [eg. Sampras 02],,or a slow slide [McEnroe]?

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Sampras certainly didn`t mess around with MM tournament wins [a la Connors] at the end of his career !! Apart from his infamous 2002 US Open victory over Agassi~~ Pete also managed to win Wimbledon twice, Miami TMS, Cincinatti TMS & Singles Championship/aka TMC in his last few tournaments ....6/7 tournaments were~~ 3 Slams, 2-TMS & 1-TMC [only one MM at LA] ...Before checking out these stats I`d never realised that his final 2-3 years were simply quality

With Federer winning so many tournaments every year 10+ etc.. I wonder if he`ll be like Sampras & simply focus on Slams only in his last few years as a pro


Pete Sampras: 64 (Philadelphia, Manchester, US Open, Grand Slam Cup 90; L.A., Indianapolis, Lyon, Singles Championship 91; Philadelphia, Kitzbuhel, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Lyon 92; Sydney, Key Biscayne, Tokyo Outdoor, Hong Kong, Wimbledon, US Open, Lyon, Antwerp 93; Sydney Outdoor, Australian Open, Indian Wells, Key Biscayne, Osaka, Tokyo Outdoor, Rome, Wimbledon, Antwerp, Singles Championship 94; Indian Wells, Queens, Wimbledon, US Open, Paris 95; San Jose, Memphis, Hong Kong, Tokyo, Indianapolis, US Open, Singles Championship, Basel 96; Australian Open, San Jose, Philadelphia, Wimbledon, Cincinnati, Grand Slam Cup, Paris Indoor, Singles Championship 97; Philadelphia, Atlanta, Wimbledon, Vienna 98; Queens, Wimbledon, L.A., Cincinnati, Singles Championship 99; TMS Miami, Wimbledon 00; US Open 02)


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John McEnroe: 77 (Hartford, San Francisco, Stockholm, Wembley, London, Masters 78; New Orleans, Milan, San Jose, Dallas WCT, Queens, South Orange, US Open, San Francisco, Stockholm, Wembley 79; Richmond WCT, Memphis, Milan, Queens, US Open, Brisbane, Sydney Indoor, Wembley 80; Pepsi Grand Slam, Milan, Frankfurt, L.A., Dallas WCT, Queens, Wimbledon, Cincinnati, US Open, Sydney Indoor 81; Philadelphia, San Francisco, Sydney Indoor, Tokyo Indoor, Wembley 82; Philadelphia, Dallas WCT, Forest Hills WCT, Wimbledon, Sydney Indoor, Wembley, Masters 83; Philadelphia, Richmond WCT, Madrid, Brussels, Dallas WCT, Forest Hills WCT, Queens, Wimbledon, Toronto, US Open, San Francisco, Stockholm, Masters 84; Philadelphia, Houston, Milan, Chicago, Atlanta, Stratton Mountain, Montreal, Stockholm 85; L.A., San Francisco, Scottsdale 86; Tokyo Outdoor, Detroit 88; Lyon, Dallas WCT, Indianapolis 89; Basel 90; Chicago 91)


##PS.~Sampras`s legacy just went up a notch in my book!

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Re: @@~Sampras ended his career in spectaculary high fashion!!#``#~ Not just the US Open!

And your point is?
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And your point is?
Will Federer end up on a high like Sampras?? ....Or just chase the MM titles until his body breaks~ a la Connors
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Re: Will FEDerer end his career on a HIGH NOTE the way Sampras did?? @Or the Connors way?

Is this really an issue? Federer is about winning the Slams as he should be, sure these other titles are good and all, but the Slams are what it's about.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Is this really an issue? Federer is about winning the Slams as he should be, sure these other titles are good and all, but the Slams are what it's about.

Just wanted to know if you think Federer will be lucky/mentally strong enough to end on a high note?? Or stuggle at the big events in his final years
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Re: Will FEDerer end his career on a HIGH NOTE the way Sampras did?? @Or the McEnroe way?

It doesn't matter how he ends his career, as long as he is satisfied that he gave it everything that he could and got the most out of his ability.

Fairytale endings are for Hollywood.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Just wanted to know if you think Federer will be lucky/mentally strong enough to end on a high note?? Or stuggle at the big events in his final years
a lot of it depends on how much he wins before the "down time". If he is able to break the sampras barrier, i dont think he will find the motivation to keep playing like andre. He has stated he wants to have a family, settle down and seems devoted to his charity and off-the court stuff. In this case, i find it reasonable for him to conclude on a high, but perhaps it wont be a slam...maybe the davis cup or olympic gold medal.

he wont retire like an agassi because there wont be a huge gaping hole in his career where he was distracted by gf, fame etc.
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a lot of it depends on how much he wins before the "down time". If he is able to break the sampras barrier, i dont think he will find the motivation to keep playing like andre. He has stated he wants to have a family, settle down and seems devoted to his charity and off-the court stuff. In this case, i find it reasonable for him to conclude on a high, but perhaps it wont be a slam...maybe the davis cup or olympic gold medal.

he wont retire like an agassi because there wont be a huge gaping hole in his career where he was distracted by gf, fame etc.
Thanks mate that`s a nice thoughtful reply ~~
.....Yeah Roger`s not going to do it the Agassi way [Andre invented a new type of tennis career ]~ also I doubt Federer will mimic Sampras... though the similarities in their respective careers are eerily spooky up to this point
-->>> Just hope Fed doesn`t go out on a sour note~ a la Borg
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Re: Will FEDerer end his career on a HIGH NOTE the way Sampras did?? @Or the McEnroe way?

Sampras + McEnroe way

15-18 Grand Slam (May or may not have Roalnd Garros)

above 75-85 singles titles
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Sampras + McEnroe way

15-18 Grand Slam (May or may not have Roalnd Garros)

above 75-85 singles titles

Sounds good ........However if Roger can pull off those numbers we`d have to re-name it the FED WAY ~~since only he could do it
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Sounds good ........However if Roger can pull off those numbers we`d have to re-name it the FED WAY ~~since only he could do it
Counting both Quantity and Qualtity (same pirority)

Lendl ~ Sampras > Connors
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A slightly premature thread.

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Re: Will FEDerer end his career on a HIGH NOTE the way Sampras did?? @Or the McEnroe way?

Roger will play the 2012 Olympics in Wimbledon - and hopefully winning it - and say thanks guys I had a great time but that's it....
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Re: Will FEDerer end his career on a HIGH NOTE the way Sampras did?? @Or the McEnroe way?

As of this week JMac's career is not yet over.

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Re: Will FEDerer end his career on a HIGH NOTE the way Sampras did?? @Or the McEnroe way?

It's too early to be wondering about this.

As I remember Sampras had a horrible year up to that USOpen win. No one even thought he'd win the tournament going in to it. It's not like Sampras quite in his prime.....but he had things go his way in his last USOpen. You are right he didn't drag out his decline several years.

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