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*What were the GREATEST calendar SEASONS ever played~??.How do you rate Fed/Laver etc

What years did these legends have their greatest calendar seasons & what about Fed~~which year do you rate higher- 2004 or 2005 or 2006???
...................>>>>>Welcome to discuss which of these was the greatest ever calendar year played by a pro ~~


1969 Rod Laver ~ calendar GRAND SLAM (AO & FO & Wimby & USO)

1973 John Newcombe ~ AO & USO

1974 Jimmy Connors ~ AO & Wimby & USO (14-titles)

1977 Guillermo Vilas ~ FO & USO plus AO final (16-titles)

1978 Bjorn Borg ~ FO & Wimby plus USO final (9-titles)

1979 Bjorn Borg ~ FO & Wimby (12-titles)

1980 Bjorn Borg ~ FO & Wimby plus USO final (8-titles)


1981 John McEnroe ~ Wimby & USO (10-titles)

1984 John McEnroe ~ Wimby & USO plus FO final (13-titles)

1986 Ivan Lendl ~ FO & USO plus Wimby final (9-titles)

1987 Ivan Lendl ~ FO & USO plus Wimby final (8-titles)

1988 Mats Wilander ~ AO & FO & USO (6-titles)

1989 Boris Becker ~ Wimby & USO (5-titles)

1992 Jim Courier ~ AO & FO (5-titles)

1993 Pete Sampras ~ Wimby & USO (8-titles)

1994 Pete Sampras ~ AO & Wimby (10-titles)

1995 Pete Sampras ~ Wimby & USO plus AO final (5-titles)

1997 Pete Sampras ~ AO & Wimby (8-titles)

1999 Andre Agassi ~ FO & USO plus Wimby final (5-titles):[NOTE: also won AO in 2000~ 3/4 Slams]

2004 Roger Federer ~ AO & Wimby & USO (11-titles)

2005 Roger Federer ~ Wimby & USO (11-titles)

2006 Roger Federer ~ AO & Wimby & USO plus FO final (9-titles+?)


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NOTE: ..........The minimum requirement to be on this list is winning 2 Slams in a calendar year.

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Re: Legendary Years~>>)##(<<~the greatest seasons of the greats (incl Fed x2)`@@`

If the minimum requirement is 2 slams, Fed's 2005 still qualifies. Plus, his win loss record 2005, 81-4 is the second best, next to JMacs.
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Re: Legendary Years~>>)##(<<~the greatest seasons of the greats (incl Fed x2)`@@`

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If the minimum requirement is 2 slams, Fed's 2005 still qualifies. Plus, his win loss record 2005, 81-4 is the second best, next to JMacs.

Okie dokies mate ~~if you think his 2005 deserves to be in contention then I`ll add it to the list
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What years did these legends have their greatest calendar seasons & what about Fed~~which year do you rate higher- 2004 or 2006???
...................>>>>>Welcome to discuss which of these was the greatest ever calendar year played by a pro ~~


1969 Rod Laver ~ calendar GRAND SLAM (AO & FO & Wimby & USO)

1973 John Newcombe ~ AO & USO

1974 Jimmy Connors ~ AO & Wimby &USO (14-titles)

1977 Guillermo Vilas ~ FO & USO plus AO final (16-titles)

1978 Bjorn Borg ~ FO & Wimby plus USO final (9-titles)

1980 Bjorn Borg ~ FO & Wimby plus USO final (8-titles)

1981 John McEnroe ~ Wimby & USO (10-titles)

1984 John McEnroe ~ Wimby & USO plus FO final (13-titles)

1986 Ivan Lendl ~ FO & USO plus Wimby final (9-titles)

1988 Mats Wilander ~ AO & FO & USO (6-titles)

1989 Boris Becker ~ Wimby & USO (5-titles)

1992 Jim Courier ~ AO & FO (5-titles)

1993 Pete Sampras ~ Wimby & USO (8-titles)

1994 Pete Sampras ~ AO & Wimby (10-titles)

1995 Pete Sampras ~ Wimby & USO plus AO final (5-titles)

1997 Pete Sampras ~ AO & Wimby (8-titles)

1999 Andre Agassi ~ FO & USO plus Wimby final (5-titles)

2004 Roger Federer ~ AO & Wimby & USO (11-titles)

2006 Roger Federer ~ AO & Wimby & USO plus FO final (9-titles+?)


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NOTE: I didn`t include Federer`s 2005 because I believe the fact that he won one less slam last year prevented it being in contention for his best ever ..........The minimum requirement to be on this list is winning 2 Slams in a calendar year.

Lendl in 1989 still greater than Becker in 1989

Lendl (10 titles including Australian Open + Runner-up in US Open
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If the minimum requirement is 2 slams, Fed's 2005 still qualifies. Plus, his win loss record 2005, 81-4 is the third best, next to JMacs.
Connors in 1974 : 89-4
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Lendl in 1989 still greater than Becker in 1989

Lendl (10 titles including Australian Open + Runner-up in US Open_

Minimum of 2-Slam wins in a calendar year to qualify for the list so Lendl`s 89 misses out
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Re: Legendary Years~>>)##(<<~the greatest seasons of the greats (incl Fed x2)`@@`

I would rate this season higher than Laver's slam, simply because of the difficulty to win on four different surfaces. That makes this year's 27-1 in GS even greater than 28-0 in '69.
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Connors in 1974 : 89-4
Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks for the correction.
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Re: Legendary Years~>>)##(<<~the greatest seasons of the greats (incl Fed x2)`@@`

are all the ###~~~***^^^^ necessary? there are so much of them that I couldn't even tell what the title of the thread really is

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Minimum of 2-Slam wins in a calendar year to qualify for the list so Lendl`s 89 misses out
OK

But I think only singles titles > 8 should be counted.
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Re: Legendary Years~>>)##(<<~the greatest seasons of the greats (incl Fed x2)`@@`

How do you top a Grand Slam year like 1969? To win all 4 in a single calendar year is the ultimate year when all's said and done. Only 2 surfaces and slower pace of play then, players better athletes now, stronger depth of competition, so it's open to debate, but I pick Laver in the end.

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But I think only singles titles > 8 should be counted.

I respect your opinion but I believe that in the end the greats are always judged by how many slams they win .....So if we include Lendl`s 1989 season then the lines are blurred & it opens up a can of worms for the criterion ....>>> Try to keep things simple & there are simply too many players who one just one slam in a year & could almost make this list~~ unfortunately we need to be brutal
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Re: **Legendary Years~~the greatest seasons of the greats (incl Fed x 3)`@@`

What about Lendl in 1987? 8 titles, with wins at the French and U.S. Opens, and a finals appearance at Wimbledon...plus a season-ending Masters championship with only one set lost!!!! There was no Aussie Open that year...here's the link:

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What about Lendl in 1987? 8 titles, with wins at the French and U.S. Opens, and a finals appearance at Wimbledon...plus a season-ending Masters championship with only one set lost!!!! There was no Aussie Open that year...here's the link:

http://www.atptennis.com/5/en/player...0&prevtrnnum=0

Thanks ~good point ....However you`re wrong about there being no AO in 1987...there was an AO that year & Lendl lost in the SF to Pat Cash --->>1986 was the year that it wasn`t played
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Re: **Legendary Years~~the greatest seasons of the greats (incl Fed x 3)`@@`

In a number of years mentioned the computer did not rank that player number 1. However, in all years mentioned that player was certainly the best player even if the computer did not agree.

Have to go with the Laver grand slam although Connors 1974 is close and I felt McEnroe 1984 was the best I have ever seen a player play consistenly through a year.

The current greatness league of active players in order of achievements to date (a factual comparison rather than fan biased assessment):

Federer 17 GS, 6 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.
Nadal 14 GS, 27 Master Series, 1 Olympic Gold.
Djokovic 9 GS, 4 Year End Masters, 24 Master Series.


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