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What Kept Russia From Producing Tennis Stars Before Now? (NYT article)

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What Kept Russia From Producing Tennis Stars Before Now?


By SERGE SCHMEMANN
Published: October 1, 2006

Where in frozen Siberia did Russians learn how to swing a racket? Svetlana Kuznetsova took the China Open. Dmitry Tursunov beat the best American player, Andy Roddick, to knock the United States out of the Davis Cup. The glamorously teenage Maria Sharapova swept past Belgiumís best, Justine Henin-Hardenne, to win the United States Open.

And so it goes, the extraordinary invasion of pro tennis, and especially womenís tennis, by players from a country that shouldnít be playing tennis at all. Russians excel at ice hockey or chess, and we wouldnít think twice if they dominated gymnastics or synchronized swimming. After all, these are sports that require year-round refrigeration, endless indoor drills and lots of wintry brooding. But tennis?

Two decades ago, there were no Russian names among the top 100 players, much less among the glitterati of the sport. Today, Maria Sharapova is a trademark, and behind her is a cascade of top-ranked Russians with jaw-challenging names. And these are not shy newcomers. They seem to have emerged as complete, prepackaged, beautifully turned out stars, complete with obsessed parent. Tursunov, like Sharapova, was exported by a relentless father to the United States at a precocious age, and itís hard to tell whether they are more Russian or American. So what spawned these stars?

Thereís a time-honored tradition in the West to approach Russia as a riddle, devising elaborate explanations for admittedly befuddling ways. I know: I was a foreign correspondent in Moscow for 10 years, expounding on the effects of endless winter, endless expanse, the collision of East and West, long subjugation by Mongol hordes. Iíve always had a soft spot for the swaddling theory, wherein the practice of binding babies like mummies between feedings formed a nation given to lurching between passivity and anarchy.

So there is a certain temptation to seek a profound explanation for the rise of Russian tennis. Are these young stars a post-Soviet reaction to the collective ethic? Are they another version of the trillionaire oligarchs, people who frantically grasp for all the riches and glory denied them for 70 years?

The fact is that there was always tennis in the Soviet Union, even if it was usually on lumpy courts behind high walls. But the Communist Party always preferred to send teams abroad, because stars traveling alone had a habit of defecting. All that changed in 1988, when tennis returned to the Olympics, and the Soviet Union began to loosen up. Courts began to sprout across the land. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the game got a further lift from Boris Yeltsin, who was often photographed wrestling with a racket.

That was when most of the current stars got their first rackets. Anna Kournikova gave further inspiration when she became the first Russian tennis player to become a marketing star. Combine that allure with the fact that Russian children are still expected to master skills through relentless practice, and the head of Russian tennis, Shamil Tarpischev, says weíve only seen the beginning.

Why womenís tennis in particular? The playwright Edvard Radzinsky, writing in The Wall Street Journal, noted that when the Soviet Union collapsed, women were free to plunge into business. And professional sport is foremost a business.

But back to swaddling. Isnít tennis all about lurching between passivity and furious activity?

'I'd like to be in his shoes for one day,' says Mats Wilander, 'to know what it feels like to play that way.'
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This is so dumb and simplistic.
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Yes, no country has ever produced great tennis players under indoor conditions before....

And as far as theories of ethnography go, this:

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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And when ys is moved to call something dumb and simplistic...

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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For my part, I'm waiting for someone to point out that Russia doesn't have tennis stars; America and Monaco have tennis stars. But if they did have tennis stars, I'm sure we could attribute it to the swaddling. :retard:

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Some tennis parent is swaddling their child as we speak...
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Quality journalism of the highest level.

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Wow...so well written, such deep analytical skills...such beautiful language..this is top stuff

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Iíve always had a soft spot for the swaddling theory, wherein the practice of binding babies like mummies between feedings formed a nation given to lurching between passivity and anarchy.

Are these young stars a post-Soviet reaction to the collective ethic? Are they another version of the trillionaire oligarchs, people who frantically grasp for all the riches and glory denied them for 70 years?

Why womenís tennis in particular? The playwright Edvard Radzinsky, writing in The Wall Street Journal, noted that when the Soviet Union collapsed, women were free to plunge into business. And professional sport is foremost a business.

But back to swaddling. Isnít tennis all about lurching between passivity and furious activity?

First, I'd note-- swaddling was a first brick of a system (very colorful though!) , so even if try to swaddle a baby now (nobody does it any longer ) without strong Orthodox Church and/or Communist Party it does not give the same effect.

Second, I'd say the Russian tennis parents are reaction.... Tennis is a parent sport-- no doubt about that. As to the young stars they are just their children (very different from the parents BTW).

Funny though about the women! Women were not "free to plunge...", most of them had to plunge into business to survive, to feed children (and husbands pretty often.... ). But yes, women adopted much quicker and easier (maybe because they had no other way ), so Russian women's tennis went ahead a little. As in life, in tennis guys are catching up now!

And finally the conclusion-- ! Totally

But in general, I liked the article-- the guy writes with respect and fascination which Russia always deserves.
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Re: NYT: Where did the Russians come from?

Yes, I posted the article last week...

'I'd like to be in his shoes for one day,' says Mats Wilander, 'to know what it feels like to play that way.'
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I enjoyed the article. Thanks OneWoman. But it must be noted that Sharapova and Tursunov have developed their games in America while a few other top Russian tennis players have developed their games in Spain and other countries.

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I enjoyed the article. Thanks TF. But it must be noted that Sharapova and Tursunov have developed their games in America while a few other top Russian tennis players have developed their games in Spain and other countries.

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SERGE SCHMEMANN can be expecting a Pulitzer Prize this year.
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Last time I checked it out, Russians come from Russia, but I may be wrong.
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