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How come there are very few Green Clay tournaments in the ATP tour?

I've always asked my self this question. Why dont they have a few tournament on green clay, maybe even a TMS. It would be slower than hard court but faster than normal clay, it would be a cool substitute for the other surfaces and its a nice change overall...

So, why dont they have more green clay tournies?

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I've always asked my self this question. Why dont they have a few tournament on green clay, maybe even a TMS. It would be slower than hard court but faster than normal clay, it would be a cool substitute for the other surfaces and its a nice change overall...

So, why dont they have more green clay tournies?


there used to be Indianopolis and Boston on green clay in the summer.

Green clay is a surface that gets no love though. The hardcourt/grass people hate it, and the purist claycourt snobs also hate it. So it doesn't have very many advocates, although it's the dominant surface in use at tennis clubs in the United States...
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Re: How come there are very few Green Clay tournaments in the ATP tour?

But Green clay tournies could be good as a sort of transition between hard court a "real" clay for americans...it could be a good idea to have a few more of these tournaments.

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Re: How come there are very few Green Clay tournaments in the ATP tour?

I think Amelia Island (WTA) is green clay.

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But Green clay tournies could be good as a sort of transition between hard court a "real" clay for americans...it could be a good idea to have a few more of these tournaments.
Here is a short version. You know how Europe has these summer clay events? The US Open used to be on green clay, and there were parallel events, so that meant Indy, Boston, Washington and many of the lead up events were on green clay, then when the US Open changed to Decoturf, then these older events then changed the surface.

I don't miss the surface, but it's a whole lot better than synthetic grass.

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Re: How come there are very few Green Clay tournaments in the ATP tour?

Amelia Island and Charleston are the only Green Clay events I believe, and both are on the WTA Tour. No idea why the women have green clay events but men don't.

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I've always asked my self this question. Why dont they have a few tournament on green clay, maybe even a TMS. It would be slower than hard court but faster than normal clay, it would be a cool substitute for the other surfaces and its a nice change overall...

So, why dont they have more green clay tournies?
Green Clay courts are always used in USA.

But US players like to play fast surfaces.
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Amelia Island and Charleston are the only Green Clay events I believe, and both are on the WTA Tour. No idea why the women have green clay events but men don't.
there was a green clay tournament a few years ago. I think Roddick even won it.

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Re: How come there are very few Green Clay tournaments in the ATP tour?

There were Green Clay events in Atlanta and Houston. Houston used to be Green Clay, but now has the European red clay.
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Re: How come there are very few Green Clay tournaments in the ATP tour?

because green clay is for american players who psychologicaly fear the red brick color that they never win on so green makes it better i guess :P

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because green clay i for american player who psychologicaly fear the red brick color that they never win on so yea....
It is wonderful that Jimmy Connors won much more clay tournaments, but all are on green clay in USA.

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Wasnt living at that time but interest fact Maybe andy roddick would aruguably be "greatest player ever" if he follows the same pattern if all clay tournaments were on green clay

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Wasnt living at that time but interest fact Maybe andy roddick would aruguably be "greatest player ever" if he follows the same pattern if all clay tournaments were on green clay
But there are few green clay tournaments.
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Re: How come there are very few Green Clay tournaments in the ATP tour?

Green clay (HarTru) was really developed more for amateur and club players who needed a surface that was easier on their bodies than hardcourts and whose clubs wanted a surface that was easier to maintain than grass or European red clay. I would speculate that it's used in pro events now only because it's so prevalent in places like Florida.

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