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Good Tennis Writers?

I know a lot of people on here don't like Jon Wertheim--or Werthless, as he's called. Peter Bodo isn't too popular here either, from what I gather. And the guy from tennis-x has been getting some criticism recently.
So which tennis writers do you like?
Or if you don't like any that exist, what should a good tennis writer be like?

Or is it just that in order to gain your respect, a tennis writer has to agree with everything you think, and since that can never happen, you will never like any tennis writer?
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Re: Good Tennis Writers?

well that's very subjective, but several tennis writers have my respect

Lisa Dillman (LA Times)
Charlie Bricker (South Florida Sun-Sentinel)
Neil Harman (London Times)
Richard Pagliaro (Tennis Week)
Joel Drucker

I think they're fair and try to see things from the players' perspectives sometimes, are pretty decent writers, etc., actually know and like tennis. Certainly not perfect but I enjoy reading their stuff. Those are just the ones i can think of off the top of my head

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Re: Good Tennis Writers?

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well that's very subjective, but several tennis writers have my respect

Lisa Dillman (LA Times)
Charlie Bricker (South Florida Sun-Sentinel)
Neil Harman (London Times)
Richard Palagrio (Tennis Week)
Joel Drucker

I think they're fair and try to see things from the players' perspectives sometimes, are pretty decent writers, etc., actually know and like tennis. Certainly not perfect but I enjoy reading their stuff. Those are just the ones i can think of off the top of my head
I have read stuff by Charlie Bricker and Joel Drucker, but I haven't heard of the other three. I will have to check them out. Thanks.
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Re: Good Tennis Writers?

sure you can find Richard Pagliaro at www.tennisweek.com he's one of their regular writers

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Re: Good Tennis Writers?

Where can we read these writers online? All I seem to get is werthless.
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Lisa Dillman - http://www.latimes.com/sports/tennis/
Charlie Bricker - http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/tennis/
Joel Drucker - he's more of a freelance but has done some stuff at http://sportsline.com/tennis/
Richard Pagliaro - www.tennisweek.com
Neil Harman - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,5205,00.html

Oh I just remembered Leighton Ginn who writes for the Indian Wells paper. http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbc...egory=sports07

And another - Christopher Clarey who does the NYTimes and International Herald Tribune http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/tennis/index.html

point is there are good writers out there you just have to dig a little

Some people like Matt Cronin from TR.net but I find him so fickle. He will write an article about how a player is not working hard enough or something and then the player wins something and he'll pretend the player has always been the best ever or something lol.

Oh, Michelle Kaufman from the Miami Herald is good. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/tennis/ as is Eleanor Preston who does freelance I believe.

Another thing to remember is that when a tournament is going on in a particular place, the local papers are generally good. The Houston Chronicle, Cincinnati Enquirer, Indianapolis Star, and many more cover their home tourneys most excellently

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Re: Good Tennis Writers?

Definitely Richard Pagliaro. He's the best.

I like Joel Drucker and Matt Cronin too.
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Lisa Dillman - http://www.latimes.com/sports/tennis/
Charlie Bricker - http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/tennis/
Joel Drucker - he's more of a freelance but has done some stuff at http://sportsline.com/tennis/
Richard Pagliaro - www.tennisweek.com
Neil Harman - http://www.timesonline.co.uk/section/0,,5205,00.html

Oh I just remembered Leighton Ginn who writes for the Indian Wells paper. http://www.thedesertsun.com/apps/pbc...egory=sports07

And another - Christopher Clarey who does the NYTimes and International Herald Tribune http://www.nytimes.com/pages/sports/tennis/index.html

point is there are good writers out there you just have to dig a little

Some people like Matt Cronin from TR.net but I find him so fickle. He will write an article about how a player is not working hard enough or something and then the player wins something and he'll pretend the player has always been the best ever or something lol.

Oh, Michelle Kaufman from the Miami Herald is good. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/tennis/ as is Eleanor Preston who does freelance I believe.

Another thing to remember is that when a tournament is going on in a particular place, the local papers are generally good. The Houston Chronicle, Cincinnati Enquirer, Indianapolis Star, and many more cover their home tourneys most excellently
Thanks for all the links...those are great!!
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Re: Good Tennis Writers?

They don't exist.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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They don't exist.


just because you are not one of them, doesn't mean they don't exist, studmuffin.

Bodo has written many excellent articles. Drucker does some good stuff too. Wertheim, even though everybody complains about him, is not *that* bad. Pagliaro is horrible when it comes to the actual writing, but his content is occasionally decent.

On the other side, i'm not impressed with this guy Richard Vach, Cronin is too trashy, and Bud Collins is just plain rambling.
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just because you are not one of them, doesn't mean they don't exist, studmuffin.

Bodo has written many excellent articles. Drucker does some good stuff too. Wertheim, even though everybody complains about him, is not *that* bad. Pagliaro is horrible when it comes to the actual writing, but his content is occasionally decent.

On the other side, i'm not impressed with this guy Richard Vach, Cronin is too trashy, and Bud Collins is just plain rambling.
When did you have a clue? None of the above you mentioned are any good.

As for tennis writers the good ones that exist are the ones that don't write in English.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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When did you have a clue? None of the above you mentioned are any good.

As for tennis writers the good ones that exist are the ones that don't write in English.
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Better watch it, some people might actually take that seriously.

Richard Evans is tolerable.
Craig Gabriel is the next level up.
Paul Fein has his moments.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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When did you have a clue? None of the above you mentioned are any good.

As for tennis writers the good ones that exist are the ones that don't write in English.


They are better writers than you George.

Not that i think you are a bad writer either.
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Better watch it, some people might actually take that seriously.


Craig Gabriel is the next level up.
Paul Fein has his moments.

who are these guys, Australians?
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