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Is it Roger's dominance or his tennis?

This is a serious completely non-bashing question that I have for Federer lovers. Why is it that you like him so much? I mean, is it the beauty of his game? His personality? The fact that he wins so often and it's rewarding to back a winner?
A combination of these things?

I ask because different players appeal to me for different reasons. I like Rafa because of his intensity, because he strikes me as a really nice guy and because he wins. Yep, I admit it. It's fun to cheer for somebody who knows how to win.

But Marat...well, my liking him has NOTHING to do with his ability to win (obviously) and more to do with his game and his...passion. Plus he just entertains the hell out of me. I put Marcos in this category as well. Thanks in advance for your honesty.
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I dont get his winner's checks, my life isnt in any way changed on paper if he wins Slams, but still I am wildly passionate about this guy's career and astonishing ability with the racquet. Why?

In short, maybe I believe that if this guy-- so graceful under pressure, crazy successful but truly humble, generous, well-spoken, beautiful strokes, respectful of history, etc -- wins Slams and titles, and makes history, it might somehow have a boomerang effect on all the ugliness out there.

Maybe other people will also behave with more respect, grace, humilty, and create something beautiful. We badly need more beautiful things in the world, more grace and quiet confidence. It's wacky from a psychological standpoint, but that fuels it for me, logical or not. I'm no celebrity junkie, and worship at no altars, but I just feel there's something right with the world when this guy plays, and especially when he wins. I oddly feel more connected to society, and life makes more sense, with Roger Fed at No. 1, with a bullet.
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He`s game. His movement, shotmaking and his tactical sense
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^^^ yep, exactly. His game is why I like Roger Federer. I don't support players just because they are on a winning streak, that never comes into it for me. I mean, I support players who rarely win titles - it's their game, first and foremosr, then their on-court/off-court persona that appeals second.

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As an American, I was a Roddick fan based on nationality. Then I sat down & watched one of their matches a couple of years ago. I wanted to hate Federer but his game is beautiful. I've never seen anything like it in my 20 years of watching tennis.
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This is a serious completely non-bashing question that I have for Federer lovers. Why is it that you like him so much? I mean, is it the beauty of his game? His personality? The fact that he wins so often and it's rewarding to back a winner?
A combination of these things?

I ask because different players appeal to me for different reasons. I like Rafa because of his intensity, because he strikes me as a really nice guy and because he wins. Yep, I admit it. It's fun to cheer for somebody who knows how to win.

But Marat...well, my liking him has NOTHING to do with his ability to win (obviously) and more to do with his game and his...passion. Plus he just entertains the hell out of me. I put Marcos in this category as well. Thanks in advance for your honesty.
Beautiful tennis is the number one factor. With the exception of Nadal, all my favorites have classically beautiful games.

All that winning is the reason Federer is my absolute favorite over all the other players with beautiful games. For one thing, I admire his ability to deliver week in, week out. For another, dominance just makes me . But if it were, say, Roddick dominating the tour, I would admire in an abstract way, but I wouldn't watch.

While I am a fan of his personality, and it makes me proud to be a Federer fan, it's not a reason I'm a fan, if that makes any sense. I'm a fan of some very different personalities, including Federer's (calm), Baghdatis's & Santoro's (cheerful), Safin's (sometimes explosive, always charismatic), and Nadal's (sometimes intense, sometimes cuddly), and I'm a fan of Haas qua player despite the fact that most of the time I think he needs a good spanking.

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I think it's a combination of both for most fans. I've met so many people that are "die-hard" Federer fans but only became so after 2003 or 2004. Most of them never even saw him play before he won a Grand Slam. They never watched him beat Sampras at Wimbledon '01, for instance. My bet is most of them wouldn't care so much if he wasn't winning 2-3 Slams a year.

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This is a serious completely non-bashing question that I have for Federer lovers. Why is it that you like him so much? I mean, is it the beauty of his game? His personality? The fact that he wins so often and it's rewarding to back a winner?
A combination of these things?
Interesting question

I follow tennis for 20 years now, liked players as Edberg, Stich and Rafter, but I have never seen someone playing so beautiful as Roger. Watching his matches make you often just speechless because he can bring up strokes you thought to be impossible. He makes this sport seem so look easy.

I follow his career since 2001 and therefore I didn't became attracted to his dominance It is amazing what Roger has done during the last years and I wish there will be more to come, but I don't ask myself how many Slams he will win. I just wait and see what will happen - and enjoy his matches

Roger gives his heart and soul to tennis and therefore I can’t understand it when someone accuses him not to have enough balls.

I have to confess that I’m also a fan of Roger because of his personality. He seems to be such a nice person who stays down to earth and is loyal to the people around him. I doubt there has ever been a number one player being so popular among his colleagues. Just listen to the comments of the other players.

For me Roger is a true champion on and off the court and I’m proud to be able to witness him
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His style of play is awesome! I could watch for hours and hours...

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For me it is his style of play first and foremost that caught my eye- his amazing ability to do amazing things with the ball.

It's nice to see him winning for sure but what I really like about him is his adaptibility. He can change his game from one extreme to another depending on what type of player he is playing- I have never seen such a versatile tennis player who has such an amazing all round game and can adapt so well to just about every style of play. With the exception of Nadal, Roger is the ultimate problem solver to any style of tennis that you can throw at him.

Add to that the fact that he does it so effortlessly, it is just an incredible sensation to see him when his game is on and everything os flowing so rythmicly- it is almost like meditation. It is like a cat purring. When I compare it to the dissonance of someone like Nadal for instance who seems to be very jittery when he is preparing for a shot it feels as if he is snatching and jerking withhis racquet before he makes contact with the ball. I had a similair sensation when I watched Jim Courier play and as silly as it sounds it makes me uneasy.

Safin is another player I really enjoy watching because like Roger he also has those smooth rythmical strokes and elegant movement albeit to a bit of a lesser degree.
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Roger has the absolute most perfectly well-rounded game. He plays effortless tennis, making it look so darn easy, and if you play tennis yourself, you will admire and appreciate what he does on the court even more. He hits at angles so obscure to your imagination, and sometimes angles you never thought existed! He can do everything, and by that I mean literally EVEYTHING. I consider myself a perfectionist, and that's probably another reason why the Federer package appeals to me. He's always working on the little things, imporving the small, unnoticeable "blips" in his game, always seeking out the best for himself, what's gonna help him stay on top longest, and THAT attitude is just fascinating, for someone who has already achieved what so many dream of. His domination is another part of his magic. We're talking about a guy who almost never loses it. Rarely does he lose when he's expected to win (which is all the time, except against Rafa on clay), and what's surreal, is that he ALWAYS delivers. Whether he's playing Wimby, Miami, Dubai, Bangok, he's always there. Mentally, physically, he's prepared to conquer the field. That's not an easy thing to do. I mean, I've seen Sampras dominate for, what, almost 6 years, and he's nothing comapred to Federer. Sure, Pete showed up, but no way was he's as alert and 'present' as Roger is, even during the most minor events. This on it's own goes to show how much respect he has for the fans, media, tourney organizers, and his fellow players. His consistency, loyalty, and passion to the game makes me even more of a tennis fan. I often hear people say, "ah, he's so boring" "if only someone else won Slams". I partly understand where such comments are coming from, but to me, witnessing sheer brilliance and genius, with a magical touch of elegance, all delievered in the most graceful manner, is more rewarding than anything will ever be. I don't know him in person, but he seems like a "nice" guy. I can't remember someone bad-mouthing him at a press conference, and we always hear how friendly he is toward the people around him. To sum up, his game is freakin' genius, I'm a sucker for perfection, his attitude is so humbling, makes me wanna become a better person, he's always in control of his emotions, which is an attitude I greatly value, and he has so much respect for the game and its history you can't help but admire his character and persona. Hope that answered your question!

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I admit that i was not a fan of federer until after 2004, but that was probably because i didn't really watch tennis before then. And then iwatch him play and was like damn, this guy plays some sexy tennis. His grace and style are everything a tennis player wants. I would assume that Rafeal Nadal would want strokes as beautiful as that, no? But alas, he is content with what he has and it works for him.

And then i love safin because of his personality. H'es great to his fans and always says something funny.

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Roger has the absolute most perfectly well-rounded game. He plays effortless tennis, making it look so darn easy, and if you play tennis yourself, you will admire and appreciate what he does on the court even more. He hits at angles so obscure to your imagination, and sometimes angles you never thought existed! He can do everything, and by that I mean literally EVEYTHING. I consider myself a perfectionist, and that's probably another reason why the Federer package appeals to me. He's always working on the little things, imporving the small, unnoticeable "blips" in his game, always seeking out the best for himself, what's gonna help him stay on top longest, and THAT attitude is just fascinating, for someone who has already achieved what so many dream of. His domination is another part of his magic. We're talking about a guy who almost never loses it. Rarely does he lose when he's expected to win (which is all the time, except against Rafa on clay), and what's surreal, is that he ALWAYS delivers. Whether he's playing Wimby, Miami, Dubai, Bangok, he's always there. Mentally, physically, he's prepared to conquer the field. That's not an easy thing to do. I mean, I've seen Sampras dominate for, what, almost 6 years, and he's nothing comapred to Federer. Sure, Pete showed up, but no way was he's as alert and 'present' as Roger is, even during the most minor events. This on it's own goes to show how much respect he has for the fans, media, tourney organizers, and his fellow players. His consistency, loyalty, and passion to the game makes me even more of a tennis fan. I often hear people say, "ah, he's so boring" "if only someone else won Slams". I partly understand where such comments are coming from, but to me, witnessing sheer brilliance and genius, with a magical touch of elegance, all delievered in the most graceful manner, is more rewarding than anything will ever be. I don't know him in person, but he seems like a "nice" guy. I can't remember someone bad-mouthing him at a press conference, and we always hear how friendly he is toward the people around him. To sum up, his game is freakin' genius, I'm a sucker for perfection, his attitude is so humbling, makes me wanna become a better person, he's always in control of his emotions, which is an attitude I greatly value, and he has so much respect for the game and its history you can't help but admire his character and persona. Hope that answered your question!


Thanks, tennisgal. While I'm no fan of Roger Federer's, I would never call his tennis boring. It's bloody brilliant, no doubt about it. But his matches are often VERY boring. He wins so easily that there is rarely anything left of his opponents after the first set. Maybe that's what people mean when they say "he's boring". Roger plays trascended tennis. I've been watching tennis for most of my life and I've NEVER seen anyone play the way Roger can, and I can appreciate the asthetics of his game. How could you be a fan of tennis and NOT enjoy it?

BUT....what I like best about tennis is the....fight. I LOVE guys like Nadal and Baghdatis because the fight their asses off. Seldom do I get that sense of satisfaction from a Federer match.
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Thanks, tennisgal. While I'm no fan of Roger Federer's, I would never call his tennis boring. It's bloody brilliant, no doubt about it. But his matches are often VERY boring. He wins so easily that there is rarely anything left of his opponents after the first set. Maybe that's what people mean when they say "he's boring". Roger plays trascended tennis. I've been watching tennis for most of my life and I've NEVER seen anyone play the way Roger can, and I can appreciate the asthetics of his game. How could you be a fan of tennis and NOT enjoy it?

BUT....what I like best about tennis is the....fight. I LOVE guys like Nadal and Baghdatis because the fight their asses off. Seldom do I get that sense of satisfaction from a Federer match.
Agree with the first bit.

As for the second, of course I respect your choice and maybe I misunderstand. Are you saying you don't get the satisfaction because Roger doesn't fight his ass off or because he never has to. If you were saying the first I would have to disagree, when he is in a match which is tough when he is down he may still end up losing but he fights like a champion.

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