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Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

I don't understand this , even if USA wins in Russia (wjich is unlikely but still possible ) they will play against Aregtina in Argentina , so whoever wins these two ties (Australia already lost but it is not a point ) final would be played on the field of a Team which choose surface for semifinal(Russia or Aregentia will have right to choose surface two times in row), I think this rule must be changed !!, Why both teams could not choose surface ?? Home crowad is alone huge boost. So for example if USA want fast hard court or grass and Spain/Argentina wants slow clay they should choose fast clay(like in Rome ) or very slow harcourt (Rebound Ace or something ) I think it would be more fair and far more enterteining , beacuse matches like ARG/AUS are too much predictable and boring

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

It's predetermined which countries, when they play each other, choose the surface.

Look at this page and click on "Choice of Ground" on the bottom left side of the screen.

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

Also, when USA and Argentina play the final this year, and they meet somewhen later again, the tie will then be played in USA. And then they can choose the surface.....

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

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I don't understand this , even if USA wins in Russia (wjich is unlikely but still possible ) they will play against Aregtina in Argentina , so whoever wins these two ties (Australia already lost but it is not a point ) final would be played on the field of a Team which choose surface for semifinal(Russia or Aregentia will have right to choose surface two times in row), I think this rule must be changed !!, Why both teams could not choose surface ?? Home crowad is alone huge boost. So for example if USA want fast hard court or grass and Spain/Argentina wants slow clay they should choose fast clay(like in Rome ) or very slow harcourt (Rebound Ace or something ) I think it would be more fair and far more enterteining , beacuse matches like ARG/AUS are too much predictable and boring
Wasn't the victory of Argentina in Australia surprising?

Thats the good thing about Davis Cup. To win it, usually you have to win in the least favorable conditions.
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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

It's as fair as possible. Sometime a team will sneak through playing all at home (Slovakia last year) or a team will unfortunately have to play all away but it evens out because next time they have the opposite.
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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

USA defeated Chile on grass, so there is no complain about playing on clay.

Even Slovakia played all their ties at home during 2005 and they couldn't win the cup.

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

Stupid is to question the most exciting rule of the DC: the home-away scheme. That's what makes it interesting.
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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

I think the perfect method is a two leg matchs. Nation A receive B to x matches and trip to nation B to play 2nd leg, but I don't think that it's possible make a caledar with that.

So, I don't know what ITF can doing. But this system is unfair.

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

The current system is fine as it is. Grand Slams and Davis Cup are the most traditional competitions in tennis, to change the rules would be taken as another MM stunt by the ATP.

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

The system is fine as it is, sometimes you get a good draw sometimes you don't. Deal with it. We lost 3 SF's in recent years away from home, so what? Tough shit. Now we were at home and we took the chance like the other teams did to us.

DC is a great competition and needs no tinkering. To the original poster, let's just say that America do beat Russia (which they won't) and have to come to Argentina. 1. If you are good enough to win in Russia on clay, then you should be confident enough to come and be competitive in Argentina on clay and 2. Next year if you have to play Russia and Argentina, you'll be playing in the US prob on grass so you won't be complaining then, will you?
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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

i think the system is great davis cup would lose its charm without it

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

In Mark Darcy´s words, I like it very much, just as it is.
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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

Last time that Argentina vs. USA played against each other was in USA, and that time americans had the chance to choice the surface, so I don't find what's wrong about the rule.

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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

The system is perfect. i dont have any problems with it. .
Homecrowd and homesurface does't neccasarily means Home team will have advantage.You see what happened to USA last year or France in DC finals in 2002. As a proffesional player, you should deal with that.
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Re: Why Davis Cup has such stupid rules ??

The system is good as is. If a team plays another at home then the next time they play the same team it will be away. For example; this year the US played Chile in the US on grass. Therefore the next time these 2 teams meet the match will be played in Chile on clay courts that you can bet will be as slow as the beach. It's fair.

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