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Neither nole or murray will win ao, bold prediction

Lets face it, tennis is changing, the new guys hits harder than the old guys, murray and nole are wall-players.....the new tennis has more weapon. Just look verdasco (despite he is old) how he hurt nole.
To defeat nole you have to use weapon, players and trainers started to understand this last year.
Nole is a "wall" (murray too) how to beat a wall? You have to outhit him.
Wawrinka,karlovic,zverev,thiem,dasco
Nishi, have had some success vs nole and players get it. We will see.
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Re: Neither nole or murray will win ao, bold prediction

Verdasco, the nextgen player regularly beats wall-player-spider Djokovic.

Coric, Chung, Thompson will hopefully read this and hit through walls.

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What did I just read?
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Its no secret Djokovic is phrone to ballbashers who on a good day can paint the lines. But try doing that in latter rounds in a best of 5 where Djokovic slowly dismantles opponents. You think its easy to go out there and hit hard as you can with consistent accuracy? High ranked Ballbashers are inconsistent in general so they lose alot of sets and wasted energy in the early rounds, making it physically impossible to blast Djokovic off court later on. Djokovic can easily take the initiative during a rally so its not only he who is doing the running against the likes of Verdasco. Djokovic is the most complete tennis player ever with a strong physique and heart.





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Its no secret Djokovic is phrone to ballbashers who on a good day can paint the lines. But try doing that in latter rounds in a best of 5 where Djokovic slowly dismantles opponents. You think its easy to go out there and hit hard as you can with consistent accuracy? High ranked Ballbashers are inconsistent in general so they lose alot of sets and wasted energy in the early rounds, making it physically impossible to blast Djokovic off court later on. Djokovic can easily take the initiative during a rally so its not only he who is doing the running against the likes of Verdasco. Djokovic is the most complete tennis player ever with a strong physique and heart.
Only Soderling, Gublis, and Rosol had some success with this strategy, from time to time
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"New players hit way harder than the old ones... look at Verdasco."

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What success did Thiem and Zverev have against Djokovic? One took one set in three meetings, the other one never even met him. Even Nishikori has been owned by Djokovic with the exception of 2-3 matches.
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What success did Thiem and Zverev have against Djokovic? One took one set in three meetings, the other one never even met him. Even Nishikori has been owned by Djokovic with the exception of 2-3 matches.
while nole did beat dominic handily in RG...thiem pushed him hard last year (I don t remember where miami or something)and had 10000 BP s ,of course he did waste them like an idiot ..but he does have the power to hit through djokovic.I don t think he s ready to beat him yet ,but you never know.

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What success did Thiem and Zverev have against Djokovic? One took one set in three meetings, the other one never even met him. Even Nishikori has been owned by Djokovic with the exception of 2-3 matches.
while nole did beat dominic handily in RG...thiem pushed him hard last year (I don t remember where miami or something)and had 10000 BP s ,of course he did waste them like an idiot ..but he does have the power to hit through djokovic.I don t think he s ready to beat him yet ,but you never know.
Yes thiem on clay hit through nole
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What success did Thiem and Zverev have against Djokovic? One took one set in three meetings, the other one never even met him. Even Nishikori has been owned by Djokovic with the exception of 2-3 matches.
while nole did beat dominic handily in RG...thiem pushed him hard last year (I don t remember where miami or something)and had 10000 BP s ,of course he did waste them like an idiot ..but he does have the power to hit through djokovic.I don t think he s ready to beat him yet ,but you never know.
Zverev can outhit nole,and has great serve, we will see
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"New players hit way harder than the old ones... look at Verdasco."

argument?
You get the point yeah?
Nando is a great exception, there is more.
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Its no secret Djokovic is phrone to ballbashers who on a good day can paint the lines. But try doing that in latter rounds in a best of 5 where Djokovic slowly dismantles opponents. You think its easy to go out there and hit hard as you can with consistent accuracy? High ranked Ballbashers are inconsistent in general so they lose alot of sets and wasted energy in the early rounds, making it physically impossible to blast Djokovic off court later on. Djokovic can easily take the initiative during a rally so its not only he who is doing the running against the likes of Verdasco. Djokovic is the most complete tennis player ever with a strong physique and heart.
Well you shall not paint the lines, thats for nole to do,
Federer hits harder now too, and the mix with dpshots is winning too vs nole due to nole way bh baseline.
I didnt say it easy though.
Misha zverev and Sam Querrey won with attacktennis so that speaks Loud about how to defeat nole.
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Re: Neither nole or murray will win ao, bold prediction

This prediction will fail spectacularly when we get another Nolandy final

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Nole has no problem with power. He absorbs it.
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This prediction will fail spectacularly when we get another Nolandy final
We will see. Not so sure.
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