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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old 09-13-2006, 11:03 PM Thread Starter
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I just find it amazing how Davydenko decided to play three days after losing to Federer in New York, not to mention about getting on a plane and having to adjust to China time. AND THE FOOD. He truly is working hard on his titles and rankings. He also has more wins than any other top 10 players other than Federer. Even though he has no Master or Slam win, I still like his efforts.

I just want to ask do you like his work ethics or do you think a talent of Safin can get you through life, not being too philosophical about it. I mean, Safin has a lot of talents and accomplished a lot, but I like Davydenko more even though Safin is better looking and more popular.

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Re: Davydenko's work ethics is more important and inspiring than his "talent".

obviously his hard work
it makes me laugh when people say he doesnt deserve to be in the top 10
when he goes to an incredible amount of tourneys and he also manages to get a decent run at GS.
He works soo hard to be were he is, he deserves every little point and position in the rankings

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I agree, his hard work is a lot to do with it, kinda like at school. Some people are just exceptionally gifted whereas others have to work very hard at it

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I agree, his hard work is a lot to do with it, kinda like at school. Some people are just exceptionally gifted whereas others have to work very hard at it

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Re: Davydenko's work ethics is more important and inspiring than his "talent".

He carries on the Lendl tradition, albeit w/less size & perhaps ability.
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Hard work of course, but you'd have to be SOMEWHAT talented to get where he's gotten. Yeah, he's probably the least talented of the top ten but he's still gifted with a mind and body for tennis

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Beat Safin again on his home soil (more so than Safin). I think this is the perfeect exapmle of hard work over talent.
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He is talented but not exceptional. His work ethic is great to see.

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Beat Safin again on his home soil (more so than Safin). I think this is the perfeect exapmle of hard work over talent.
I don't want to take anything from Kolya, he's a great player and totally deserves his place in top 10 but beating Safin this year is not the best prove of anything. Did you all forget who did beat Marat this year? Win over Safin doesn't mean as much nowdays.
As for home soil it never helped Marat, it's the first time he got to finals in Moscow.

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Re: Davydenko's work ethics is more important and inspiring than his "talent".

Am I alone in thinking it wasn't particularly admirable to fly halfway round the world to play a small event and withdraw after two rounds, then have to fly almost halfway round the world again to prepare for DC and then be unable to play because of illness, most likely brought on by all that travelling? He plays too many events, and I'm not sure whether a Top 10 player should be labouring hard to win Sopot and then losing first round at both Toronto and Cincinnati the following two weeks.

That said, he deserves tremendous credit for his exceptional Slam results - three QFs and two SFs in the space of only two years - and he's earnt every tournament win, that's for sure. Besides, you can't look at the stats that show he leads in almost every return category and say that he isn't talented in at least one area of the game.

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Re: Davydenko's work ethics is more important and inspiring than his "talent".

Like he has no talents Better 1 Kolya than 1000 "i'm so " Safins, 500 "Unicef-Prada" Federers and 100 "Doping Bull" Nadals

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Am I alone in thinking it wasn't particularly admirable to fly halfway round the world to play a small event and withdraw after two rounds, then have to fly almost halfway round the world again to prepare for DC and then be unable to play because of illness, most likely brought on by all that travelling? He plays too many events, and I'm not sure whether a Top 10 player should be labouring hard to win Sopot and then losing first round at both Toronto and Cincinnati the following two weeks.

That said, he deserves tremendous credit for his exceptional Slam results - three QFs and two SFs in the space of only two years - and he's earnt every tournament win, that's for sure. Besides, you can't look at the stats that show he leads in almost every return category and say that he isn't talented in at least one area of the game.
I agree. I feel that people seem to assume people with more personality have more talent. An example is Andy Murray. He has played a lot of great players in his short career and he said the set Davydenko played when he bagelled him at the US Open this year was the best anyone has ever played against him. It is a different type of talent, just because he isn't bashing winners from everywhere doesn't mean he isn't talented. He is one of the best returners in the game along with Ferrer, Federer, Nadal, Hewitt, Murray and Nalbandian.

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500 "Unicef-Prada" Federers and 100 "Doping Bull" Nadals
what's wrong with doing sth for UNICEF?
any proofs showing that Nadal takes illegal drugs?
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alfie's attempt to champion the solid integrity of Kolya is rather undone by the doping accusation against Nadal, I agree.

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Re: Davydenko's work ethics is more important and inspiring than his "talent".

This guy just enough crazy to net as many as tournies and matches he could do in a year. Only Federer has more games than him.

I respect him so much for his hard-working also he has talent although his style is some kind of boring because lack of emotion and aggresiveness. Surely you should have a talent to break the top ten in the world, and this guy mix it with working like a hell

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