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Federer vs Sampras on youtube

their match from wimbledon in 2001. http://youtube.com/watch?v=yR1XO9k-svo

federer has no court presence, his footwork is a quarter of what it is now as is the rest of his game. yet it went to four sets to federer.
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He won in five sets.

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He won in five sets.
oops. you're right. i was going from memory and i guess i misheard.

here's the final score: 7-6(7) 5-7 6-4 6-7(2) 7-5
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By the way, thanks for the link, manji.

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It's weird to see Roger serve and volley so much. It's almost a bit boring.
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I wouldnt say young Federer beat Sampras when Sampras was in a major slump. These are Sampras' finlalist finishings (not titles) that same year, 2001: Indian Wells TMS, Long Island, Los Angeles, US Open Any player would be lucky to have such a "slump." And if a younger inexperienced Fed could beat Sampras slightly below his prime, I'd say Fed would whup Sampras 9 out of 10 times.

The link is just for 4th set but surprisingly Fed nearly kept up in ace department with Pete and won alot of his points at net. Perhaps Fed's statement that he likes beating players at their own game has credence here.

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just one match cannot decide who is greater, wasn't Murray beat Federer this year? does this mean Murray is greater than Federer ?

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I wouldnt say young Federer beat Sampras when Sampras was in a major slump. These are Sampras' titles that same year, 2001: Indian Wells TMS, Long Island, Los Angeles, US Open Any player would be lucky to have such a "slump." And if a younger inexperienced Fed could beat Sampras slightly below his prime, I'd say Fed would whup Sampras 9 out of 10 times.

The link is just for 4th set but surprisingly Fed nearly kept up in ace department with Pete and won alot of his points at net. Perhaps Fed's statement that he likes beating players at their own game has credence here.

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just one match cannot decide who is greater, wasn't Murray beat Federer this year? does this mean Murray is greater than Federer ?
But they played each other twice (H2H tied at 1-1) and Federer won his match by losing one game less...so this means that Federer is better

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It's hardly the same thing, Mimi. He played Fed in a tournament which judging by Fed's body language and play obviously meant nothing to Fed.

If Murray beats Fed on Centre Court next year, when Fed is obviously giving it his everything, then you can start talking.
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BTW I wouldn't be too hard on Pete. I think he would probably lose because Fed takes down big servers all the time. But he wasn't a choker like Fed is and I think he'd be a bad matchup for Nadal on any surface other than clay...
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I wouldnt say young Federer beat Sampras when Sampras was in a major slump. These are Sampras' titles that same year, 2001: Indian Wells TMS, Long Island, Los Angeles, US Open Any player would be lucky to have such a "slump." And if a younger inexperienced Fed could beat Sampras slightly below his prime, I'd say Fed would whup Sampras 9 out of 10 times.
ummm you really should do some basic research before posting such tripe. Pete won NO titles in 2001. And yes, for Pete Sampras, that is an absolute slump. And therefore, really, you can not claim Sampras was "slightly" below his prime, he was FAR below it. and really there goes your whole 9 out of 10 bs if both players are in their prime.
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ummm you really should do some basic research before posting such tripe. Pete won NO titles in 2001. And yes, for Pete Sampras, that is an absolute slump. And therefore, really, you can not claim Sampras was "slightly" below his prime, he was FAR below it. and really there goes your whole 9 out of 10 bs if both players are in their prime.
I wonder who really should do "some basic research".


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ummm you really should do some basic research before posting such tripe. Pete won NO titles in 2001. And yes, for Pete Sampras, that is an absolute slump. And therefore, really, you can not claim Sampras was "slightly" below his prime, he was FAR below it. and really there goes your whole 9 out of 10 bs if both players are in their prime.
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BTW I wouldn't be too hard on Pete. I think he would probably lose because Fed takes down big servers all the time. But he wasn't a choker like Fed is and I think he'd be a bad matchup for Nadal on any surface other than clay...
Exactly, tennis is abaout matchups. Sampras played an aggressive serve-and-volley game and really went for his shots instead of just staying in rallies. Nadal hates playing players like that, while Federer seems to thrive against those kind of players. Therefore I'm quite positive that Sampras would have dominated Nadal on every medium to fast paced surface.

However, it is not given that Federer would have dominated Sampras. True, Federer hardly ever loses to players who play the game in the same vein as Sampras, but let's not forget that Sampras is a whole other caliber of player than todays representatives of a somewhat similar style. If I had to pick one, I'd pick Federer, but it's not an easy choice to make, given the incredible hold game Sampras had.
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its truth that pete won no title in 2001, he won wimb 2000, it took him 2 years that he won another title, and which is his final one: the 2002 us open
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