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Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

I mean, it is just silly to see an awesome server send these bombs, 130-140 mphs many times down the line and Federer doesnt even seem bothered. Roddick was serving like a madman out there and couldnt even make 2 aces every set. Roddick served 65% and got broken 6 times yesterday.

Of all the great tennis what I am gonna remember will be the amazing 1st serve returns. One of the most underestimated qualities in tennis, I mean Agassi may be great att attacking 2nd serves but if he would be as great as Federer returning 1st serves he would not be 2nd to Sampras in his generation. The 1st serve is such a weapon nowadays and beeing able to neutralize it like Fed does makes his returns the greatest single weapon in tennis.
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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

Which is why when murray gets fit and learns to serve he will be right up there!
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Up there with Federer???
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That is implied, yes.
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That is implied, yes.
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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

I disregard anyone from the UK's opinion of Murray. Because 99% of them are delusional.
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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

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Which is why when murray gets fit and learns to serve he will be right up there!
Um wow. Big statement.

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yeah, that was impressive and insane....
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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

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I mean, it is just silly to see an awesome server send these bombs, 130-140 mphs many times down the line and Federer doesnt even seem bothered. Roddick was serving like a madman out there and couldnt even make 2 aces every set. Roddick served 65% and got broken 6 times yesterday.

Of all the great tennis what I am gonna remember will be the amazing 1st serve returns. One of the most underestimated qualities in tennis, I mean Agassi may be great att attacking 2nd serves but if he would be as great as Federer returning 1st serves he would not be 2nd to Sampras in his generation. The 1st serve is such a weapon nowadays and beeing able to neutralize it like Fed does makes his returns the greatest single weapon in tennis.
Does provide strong evidence for considering Federer the best returner of serve currently in mens tennis. He is doing it against the best serve in mens tennis.

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Bah, Roddick... Now Goran would've served Federer off the court...
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In a matchup against big servers, his return is the single best weapon he has.

How demoralizing it must have been for andy to see his rockets come right back, with interest. And then, to be broken more times in that one match than he has been all tournament long; it already puts him on the backfoot right there, it's so tough to hang in there with that kind of disadvantage, so all credit to andy for then winning one set
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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

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Bah, Roddick... Now Goran would've served Federer off the court...
That's cos Goran is a great server. Rodduck is only a powerful server. People always seem to confuse that.

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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

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Bah, Roddick... Now Goran would've served Federer off the court...
Goran served slower and put a lower % of 1st serves in court. I think you will find Goran's serve each year was broken far more than Andy's.

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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

The return of serve is one of the weapons Roger has that Roddick doesn't have.
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Re: Federers supernatural 1st serve returns!

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I think you will find Goran's serve each year was broken far more than Andy's.
That would depend on how good Goran's opponents' returns were versus how good andy's opponents' returns are. Can't compare
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