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Question how has agassi given back to the game of tennis?

the media as well as many players talk about andre giving back to the game by playing into his 30's. i don't really understand this because how is this different from other veterans who are playing into their 30's? Aren't they giving back to the game as well, if thats the case? Also, i would think what andre is doing is trying to achieve personal glory on the tennis court just like everyone else. i don't see how it is a service of some kind that andre is providing.

i applaud his efforts for charity off the court, but other than his academy which many other players have, it does not contribute to tennis as a sport directly.

so please someone enlighten me and explain how exactly is agassi giving back to the game? is it possible that andre is being praised for his achievements but nobody wants to say this directly because of all the other great tennis players who have achieved more?
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Re: how has agassi given back to the game of tennis?

What Agassi has given to the game


Nadal
Roddick
Hewitt


Both are like disciples of Agassi's method of play

Just like that Federer is a disciple of Sampras's play
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Re: how has agassi given back to the game of tennis?

Agassi comes from a tradition of Connors and McEnroe as punk/bully/elder statesman.
That's what he's given back.

BTW, Agassi said if he'd do it all again, he wouldn't play tennis.


BTW, I've been called cynical but I think charities are major PR stunts and a way to keep your money going to taxes. It helps people, okay, but in a "pity" type of way. I never see these charities; I see the Boy/Girl Scouts, Peace Corp/Habitat for Humanity, etc. Where are these charities?

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the media as well as many players talk about andre giving back to the game by playing into his 30's. i don't really understand this because how is this different from other veterans who are playing into their 30's? Aren't they giving back to the game as well, if thats the case? Also, i would think what andre is doing is trying to achieve personal glory on the tennis court just like everyone else. i don't see how it is a service of some kind that andre is providing.

i applaud his efforts for charity off the court, but other than his academy which many other players have, it does not contribute to tennis as a sport directly.

so please someone enlighten me and explain how exactly is agassi giving back to the game? is it possible that andre is being praised for his achievements but nobody wants to say this directly because of all the other great tennis players who have achieved more?
I guess they mean he has made tennis more visible by playing. He is very well known unlike most other 30 something players.

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Agassi's academy is not a tennis academy but a real school that helps under privaleged children get a college preparatory education. His charity foundation is a multi-million $ endeavor that has touched many people. He has given back to the sport by making many personal appearances, playing many charity exhibitions, etc. He is one of sport's most iconic, recognizable, and popular players and that popularity has brought many players and fans to the game.
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Re: how has agassi given back to the game of tennis?

yes, ok, but i would think any great player could have been visible in the sport. Why is agassi all of a sudden seen as providing a service of some sort.

everything that people have mentioned is a byproduct of andre (a great player) playing tennis. Its not an intentional act.

for example, do you hear about what martina has given to the game or others. I have even heard players talk about it all the time...so its not necc the media alone.
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Martina does not have a multi-million $ foundation for starters. Agassi has made himself available to the press and has put his money where his mouth is by sponsoring some under privaledged Las Vegas junior tennis players as well as his school. As a contingency for his Adidas contract Adidas was required to contribute a certain amount of $ to charity (his former deal with Nike was a similar one).

I love these posts on this board where the posters have an obvious agenda to bash a certain player but don't have the balls to just come out and do so. So they contrive these ridiculous threads.

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i had a video game called Agassi Tennis Generation. I gave it to some kid. Now that kid whoops me at tennis in real life. I think its because of that game.

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Re: how has agassi given back to the game of tennis?

He does all kinds of charity exhibitions in the US to help raise tennis's profile, several a year - this year he will be at Andy's exhibition and one in the fall with James, etc.

Moreover, the simple fact that his celebrity transcends the sport helps tennis. The fact that he put himself out there and said, hey I play tennis, people watched, that helped the game. People who don't watch much tennis, at least in the US, watch Agassi, he's appeared on talk shows and stuff, etc. I don't see how he has done any less than any of the other big stars?

When people say "he did a lot for tennis" - that doesn't necessarily mean he walked around wearing TENNIS RULES on his shirt all the time, I think it's a broader concept of, what this guy and his celebrity and his presence in sports has done for the game, and I find his influence on the game in that respect undeniable.

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I love these posts on this board where the posters have an obvious agenda to bash a certain player but don't have the balls to just come out and do so. So they contrive these ridiculous threads.
i was just confused by the phrase, if you want to come out and criticize, use your own logic and do it directly. i havent followed andre his whole career and to me appearing on talk shows and being available to the press could be interpreted as increasing his own stature in the sport. doing charity events helps underpriveleged people but not necc the sport.
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I did do it directly...unlike you.
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I did do it directly...unlike you.
i am not here to bash the guy, geez. im just wondering what he's done thats so exceptional to be deserving of such praise, when other great players dont receive the same audulation...i think its a valid question.
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the media as well as many players talk about andre giving back to the game by playing into his 30's. i don't really understand this because how is this different from other veterans who are playing into their 30's? Aren't they giving back to the game as well, if thats the case? Also, i would think what andre is doing is trying to achieve personal glory on the tennis court just like everyone else. i don't see how it is a service of some kind that andre is providing.

i applaud his efforts for charity off the court, but other than his academy which many other players have, it does not contribute to tennis as a sport directly.

so please someone enlighten me and explain how exactly is agassi giving back to the game? is it possible that andre is being praised for his achievements but nobody wants to say this directly because of all the other great tennis players who have achieved more?
Andre said he plays because the more money he wins the more money goes towards his Andre Agassi School (prep-12 for street kids and mostly blacks). He said he and Pete are like apples and oranges cos Pete wanted to retire a winner while Andre didn't care about retiring on top he just wanted to play for as long as was physically possible to help his charity. He certainly played for as long as was physically possible. Mission Accomplished.

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From a fan-attracting perspective, tourneys always do much better attracting fans and selling tickets when Agassi's playing. I think it's been commentated throughout the past few years that his matches always sell out the quickest and/or gather the most spectators, even when you have people like federer and roddick playing. I used to go to the SAP open each year in CA, and his early round matches would almost be sold out each time; this year he withdrew, but the tourney advisors conveniently decided to delay announcing it to the public because they knew they would lose like 1/2 of their sales if he didn't come. So just from virtue of him being a crowd-gatherer, he has given back to tennis- he's popular. people come to see him. He gets people to the tournaments, and keeps them interested and coming back to see tennis.

I think they mentioned that Agassi's first round match at the US open this year had something like a 150% increase in viewership as opposed to last year.... and his next two matches also had a much larger tv audience than normal. So in that way, in his 30s, he attracted money and popularity to the game of tennis, maybe even as much as he did in the early 90s... so maybe not so much how he dominated on court, but what he brought to the court.

And not going into his reasons for continuing to play- either selfishly or for the fans, you can see by wimbledon and the US open that he at least said he wanted to say goodbye to his fans, etc. and didn't have any realistic hope of going far with his back injury. he was doing it because (in his words) he wanted to "give back to the sport that's given so much to me"- he thinks it's his duty to play as long as he can, for the fans and for the sport, and for his charity. I know this wasn't a great year, but I still think it's admirable he didn't want to just "leave on the top" last year- he recognizes what tennis has done for him, and he wanted to leave it all out there.

and in addition to his academic school, he does have a tennis charity in Vegas too i believe- it works with inner city youth. he's spoken a lot about kids getting the opportunity to pick up rackets that wouldn't otherwise over the years, so he's passionate about getting more people interested in tennis/gives back that way.

i think a lot of it probably has to do with the fact that he's just so well-known, charismatic, etc. and that he can be credited with a lot of the interest in US men's tennis over the years (esp. after the rest of his generation retired.) He always connects with the crowd on a level above everyone else- you saw that 8 minute goodbye ovation.

Plus (last thing ), he could've easily retired 8 years ago when everyone thought he was over, but he worked his way back to the top- probably would've been at the top even now if not for his back injury- i think just his amazing comeback, and his ability to stay at the top into his 30's is one of those famous/feel-good stories of the tennis community, and not something others have accomplished.. Wasn't Agassi the oldest ranked #1 at 33 or something?

i'm not trying to worship the guy, it's just what i came up with as possible reasons.

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