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Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

When Federer is in his very top gear, is there any player in the world today, who in his top gear can beat federer with a score more dominating than 7/6
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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

See Australian Open 05 and French Open 06.
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See Australian Open 05 and French Open 06.
I saw those and Federer wasnt in top gear in both AU semi or French 2005/06
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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

yes its most likely someone whos serve he will not be able to break.
A big gorrilla with a big serve.
Look at men's tennis aside from Nadal and Federer and not on clay.
all it is is "serve and bash"
The modern game what a bore.
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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

The better question for you guys is if anyone can beat Nadal when he is in top gear? Yeah he lost Wimbledon, Toronto, Cincy, and at the US Open but its clear he wasn't in top gear then.

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The better question for you guys is if anyone can beat Nadal when he is in top gear? Yeah he lost Wimbledon, Toronto, Cincy, and at the US Open but its clear he wasn't in top gear then.
you can say the same thing about Thomas Muster on clay. Nadal is like Agassi, Excellent clay game but very good other surface game

He got a VERY easy draw in wimbledon and US open
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The better question for you guys is if anyone can beat Nadal when he is in top gear? Yeah he lost Wimbledon, Toronto, Cincy, and at the US Open but its clear he wasn't in top gear then.
vince spadea is yet to reach his prime. he was in reverse gear against federer

all those tournaments he lost, he was still stuck in first gear.

just watch him hit top gear, nobody will be able to stop him.
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I saw those and Federer wasnt in top gear in both AU semi or French 2005/06
You are kidding, right?
He was in full form against safin in the Australian open.
Just because he lost doesn't mean he wasn't in full gear


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vince spadea is yet to reach his prime. he was in reverse gear against federer

all those tournaments he lost, he was still stuck in first gear.

just watch him hit top gear, nobody will be able to stop him.
vince? the 32 year old?
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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

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You are kidding, right?
He was in full form against safin in the Australian open.
Just because he lost doesn't mean he wasn't in full gear




I have a torrent of that match. he was nowhere near the level as he was especially like he was in semis of 2005 US open when he played the 4 setter vs Agassi, especially the final set where he won 6-1. In Top gear I mean when he is hitting those impossible shots after shots like sampras used to do in wimbledon
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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

I can only think of AO 05 Semis loss.
Maybe he had a problem with a blister or whatever, but he wasn't too far off from his best, I thought.

All those losses against Rafa, I don't know because I've only watched the two FO matches where he struggled a lot with his own game plus Rafa's.

So my answer to this thread's question would be a healthy, rejuvenated, focused, and one-hot-looking MARAT SAFIN.

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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

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I can only think of AO 05 Semis loss.
Maybe he had a problem with a blister or whatever, but he wasn't too far off from his best, I thought.

All those losses against Rafa, I don't know because I've only watched the two FO matches where he struggled a lot with his own game plus Rafa's.

So my answer to this thread's question would be a healthy, rejuvenated, focused, and one-hot-looking MARAT SAFIN.
Hippo won't beat him if Fed is in top gear, according to the thread starter.

In fact, this is a self-fullfiling prophecy thread.
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I have a torrent of that match. he was nowhere near the level as he was especially like he was in semis of 2005 US open when he played the 4 setter vs Agassi, especially the final set where he won 6-1. In Top gear I mean when he is hitting those impossible shots after shots like sampras used to do in wimbledon
I know that Fed could've played better against Marat in that match, but then without that match, this thread becomes meaningless imo, because no one in his "top gear" can defeat Fed when he is playing his absolute best tennis.

If not Marat, then maybe Nadal is the only answer but seeing that he loses often on other surfaces than clay, I have to wonder how Nadal's "best tennis" could beat Fed's best when the latter doesn't lose even when playing so-so.

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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

Nobody can beat Vasilis Mazarakis in full flight. Nobody has ever seen Vasilis Mazarakis in full flight.

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Re: Serious question concerning Federer's competition...

I think the match today demonstrated the strategy to beat Roger: coming in to the net with deep approaches to the backhand side. Serve and volleying off of big first serves or kick second serves to the backhand work great. Time and time again, Roger looked average when Roddick, a below average net player, came in...The players who could defeat him under these circumstances: Boris Becker and Stefan Edberg....whoops....they no longer play...
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