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To me, Roddick is more admirable than Federer

Let's try not to talk about his on-court demeaner, because apparently most people here are tennis trolls and would much rather choose to go ballistic over a "too good" than stay quiet.

Federer is a much more skillfull player than Roddick, yes. He has more talent than Roddick and seems poised to be always a couple of steps ahead him. In every thread, there always seems to be someone laughing and claiming that Roddick has no talent whatsoever, but that's what makes me admire him even more.

Because if they are right, and Roddick really has no talent, then that means he's is a grinder; he worked hard to get where he's at right now. Whereas Federer has a God-given talent to play tennis at the highest level, and undoubtedly works hard to stay at that level, many other players are forced to work that much harder just to keep up. I remember how frustrated I was at school, studying hours just to pass a test while the alien-like child breezed through it by only reading a few passages and somehow committing them to memory.

Federer's just boring to watch, as he makes everything look so easy. Meanwhile, I look in awe at Roddick and other such players as they work their heart out to fight for every point, showing extreme hussle, hoping for a chance to regain some footing.

Just felt like saying that. This post will obviously infuriate the Federer lovers, but I don't really care.

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Re: To me, Roddick is more admirable than Federer

Just one overused but nevertheless appropriate maxim to remember here: it takes a lot of hard work to make something look easy. I don't see why Federer should be deemed boring for excelling at what he does, any more than a gifted child in school should be termed "alien-like" for daring to stand out from the rest and utilise his ability to the full.

Federer would never would have been half the player he is now without working hard both on and off the court. Yes, you need talent in abundance to stand a chance of dominating in the first place, but you need the whole combination to achieve what he has in the last few years.

Anyhow, I don't disagree with your main point that it's enjoyable to watch players hustle and make the most of what they've got, there are several players I like for the same reason, but in Roddick's case the end product is not something at all entertaining for me.

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Re: To me, Roddick is more admirable than Federer

Roger works very hard and shows heart but he doesn't make stupid noises during the rallies to show you how hard he is working.
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It's not that Roddick looks "untalented", it's that Federer looks more "talented". And as for the charisma, most people feel that Federer has little of it and would agree with you there (I mean, come on - the constant winning is not the real reason for the under-hype, look at Tiger Woods for example)
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Re: To me, Roddick is more admirable than Federer

Roger makes it look so easy
because he does work his ass off!

Just because he keeps his composure most of the time
and contains his emotions when need be to be able to
deliver doesn't mean he hasn't work just as hard if not
harder to do what he does that is just some amazing!

And the level of work and committment to be at the top and stay
at the top not only requires a tremendous amount of physical work
but mental work as well.

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Re: To me, Roddick is more admirable than Federer

Roddick looks like a mallard duck and Federer looks like a clay fighter from that old ninetendo game.

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I feel misunderstood already - I never said Federer doesnt work hard.
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I understood your last sentence in that post just fine, thanks.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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I kind of agree with you. Like the "alien" student example you used. There are some people who are born naturally smart so they can breeze thru tests and get "A's'' easily while there are some people who arent as smart so they have to study twice as hard to get good grades. naturally, you'd respect the guy who is forced to work harder while the person who breeze thru, you feel they dont have to try really hard.

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the funny thing is that we have no way of knowing who actually works harder.

for all you know maybe roddick doesnt spend christmas day working on his tennis with a coach in a different country.

anyhow, i appreciate a guy like hewitt more than roddick because he isnt the biggest guy around and doesnt have the most power or talent but still is an amazing player, if we use your logic
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the funny thing is that we have no way of knowing who actually works harder.

for all you know maybe roddick doesnt spend christmas day working on his tennis with a coach in a different country.

anyhow, i appreciate a guy like hewitt more than roddick because he isnt the biggest guy around and doesnt have the most power or talent but still is an amazing player, if we use your logic
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I don't get this thread at all. There has never been a player so gifted that they can attain the #1 ranking based on talent alone. Hard work and sacrifice are required to acheive that. That Roddick, who has won far less than Federer, is somehow more admirable is lost on me. If he had won as many titles as Federer maybe then I could understand because Federer does everyhting better than Roddick except serve. Why then isn't the #100 ranked player therefore more admirable than the both of them?
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Re: To me, Roddick is more admirable than Federer

Roger makes the difficult look easy.

Andy often makes the difficult look...well...difficult...and that's admirable?

Okay...I'm confused.
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If you prefer a player who looks like he's working hard, to a genius who makes it look effortless, Youzhny would be a far more compelling example than AR
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