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I trust less and less...

... to those who organise tennis events. I don't think draws are random anymore (Nadal/Federer case), and I even doubt the hawk-eye system. How do we know it is not rigged also?
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... to those who organise tennis events. I don't think draws are random anymore (Nadal/Federer case), and I even doubt the hawk-eye system. How do we know it is not rigged also?

Um Federer and Nadal are the #1 and #2 players. They aren't supposed to play each other until the final.
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... to those who organise tennis events. I don't think draws are random anymore (Nadal/Federer case), and I even doubt the hawk-eye system. How do we know it is not rigged also?
What do you mean by "Nadal/Federer case"?
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... to those who organise tennis events. I don't think draws are random anymore (Nadal/Federer case), and I even doubt the hawk-eye system. How do we know it is not rigged also?
I totally agree. People seem forget a very VERY strange fact. It has been the case for the last two years. Federer is ALWAYS at the top of every draw he enters... I mean, WTF ! They're clearly rigged. I think the ATP is sleeping with the Swiss government.
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What do you mean by "Nadal/Federer case"?
I think it should be pretty obvious. I mean, someone is obviously giving Federer the easiest possible draws, how else could he get to like 17 straight finals, and every Grand Slam final this year. As for Nadal, they obviously started giving him the toughest possible draws after Wimbledon, since he hasn't been to a final since then. Pretty pathetic really. This conspiracy needs to end here and now!!!
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Well it's obviously not 100% random otherwise how would it just perfectly work out that a seeded player doesn't play a seeded player until at least the third round, unless there is an upset. I figured this was just standard, it obviously doesn't just happen that way by mistake..
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I think it should be pretty obvious. I mean, someone is obviously giving Federer the easiest possible draws, how else could he get to like 17 straight finals, and every Grand Slam final this year. As for Nadal, they obviously started giving him the toughest possible draws after Wimbledon, since he hasn't been to a final since then. Pretty pathetic really. This conspiracy needs to end here and now!!!
So you looked at the draw and you saw the slight possiblity of Nadal playing Youzhny in the quarters and thought "Oh no! Nadal will loose! They make his draw so difficult.."
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Well it's obviously not 100% random otherwise how would it just perfectly work out that a seeded player doesn't play a seeded player until at least the third round, unless there is an upset. I figured this was just standard, it obviously doesn't just happen that way by mistake..
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So you looked at the draw and you saw the slight possiblity of Nadal playing Youzhny in the quarters and thought "Oh no! Nadal will loose! They make his draw so difficult.."
I think he was being sarcastic.


And by the way, what you are saying doesn't really make much sense. First of all, why would they favour Federer and not, say, Roddick or Blake or Safin that are the ones that attract the biggest audience, especially in the US? If this draw thing would be a big conspiracy, they'd do it in a way that the ATP gets benefited and with Feds winning they just don't. Most people are not interested in seeing Federer win every tournament, or Federer and Nadal in the finals for that matter.

Besides, arranging draws is pretty relative beause there could always be upsets, anytime.

There's always a posibility, but I think they'd try to benefit other players, not Federer.
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I even doubt the hawk-eye system. How do we know it is not rigged also?
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well, i kept hearing talk about how people expected the draw to be rigged in andre's favor (since he's the biggest publicity for the tournament/biggest crowd gatherer)... so that he'd have the easiest first rounds possible and make it into the second week. but he had a pretty hard early draw (like baghdatis in the 2nd round.) it seems like if they'd want to rig it for any of the players, he'd be up on their list, and they didn't...
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You're so stupid, honestly.

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I think this thread is rigged.
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So no one of you have the slightest doubt about organisers of tennis Grand Slams. Well I do, and I am far from believer in any "conspiracy theories". In Fed-Davydenko match I noticed a point when Federer was certain the ball was out, he challenged, and hawk-eye showed that it was in. Federer smiled and shook his head, like he wants to say "no way that was in".

You are also certain that they don't rig the draws (make them easy for Nadal this year). You see, sometimes there is manipulation with even more serious things. Tell me, on what day did that stingray kill Steve Irwin "The Crocodile Hunter"?
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