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So is the U.S. Open faster than Wimbledon now?

I keep hearing conflicting opinions from some people saying that Wimbledon is now much slower and that the U.S. Open is now the fastest Grand Slam yet at the same time people will say that grass is the quickest surface.

So is Wimbledon still the fastest of the Grand Slams or would that honour now belong to the U.S. Open?

Because I have a feeling that even though Nadal made the final of Wimbledon making the final of the U.S. Open would be tougher for him in coming years.
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Apples and oranges. Grass is different than hard court, the movement, ball bounce are different. Court speed is only one parameter among others.

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Re: So is the U.S. Open faster than Wimbledon now?

Can't be compared accurately.

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Apples and oranges. Grass is different than hard court, the movement, ball bounce are different. Court speed is only one parameter among others.
Borg 5 times winner at Wimbledon and 0 times at US Open. The surfaces are totally different.

Ball bounces higher on the hard US Open surface.

Bounce more reliable on the artificial surface of the US Open.

Firmer footing on the US Open surface.

Use higher pressure balls.

Not to mention the crowd

Grass, hard and clay are 3 totally different surfaces. Some have struggled to master more than 1 surface, many have mastered 2 and few have mastered all 3.

Borg mastered grass and clay - hard court problems.
Lendl mastered clay and hard - grass court problems.
Sampras mastered grass and hard - clay court problems.

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Borg 5 times winner at Wimbledon and 0 times at US Open
Note that during "Borg period" US Open's surface had changed 2 times
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Note that during "Borg period" US Open's surface had changed 2 times
During Borg's dominant years (2 or more grand slams a year) 1978-80 it was on Decoturf.

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Re: So is the U.S. Open faster than Wimbledon now?

mmmm... no comparision, total different surfaces.

The thing that I've been surprised this year is there are a lot of players that I saw sliding on decoturf like they are playing on clay this year

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mmmm... no comparision, total different surfaces.

The thing that I've been surprised this year is there are a lot of players that I saw sliding on decoturf like they are playing on clay this year
And risking nasty injury doing so - there's no give on hardcourt so that's going to be jarring right up their legs.
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mmmm... no comparision, total different surfaces.

The thing that I've been surprised this year is there are a lot of players that I saw sliding on decoturf like they are playing on clay this year
I noticed that too and was really surprised. I'd never really seen that happening so often on hard courts before, it can't possibly be easy on the legs and ankles.
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Re: So is the U.S. Open faster than Wimbledon now?

at this point, probly even RG is faster than Wimby

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at this point, probly even RG is faster than Wimby
No it's not, that's just the illusion of ball speed.
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Re: So is the U.S. Open faster than Wimbledon now?

I play from time to time at the USTA center and the courts seem to have gotten a tad slower over the last few years. Or else my serve really sucks now
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Re: So is the U.S. Open faster than Wimbledon now?

They sped up Roland Garros after asking the French players what conditions they wanted. How do they expect Murray to win at Wimbledon when the courts and balls are disgustingly slow. Very idiotic if you ask me. The US open is faster than Wimbledon and has been for the last few years. Americans know the likes of Roddick prefer fast conditions. Don't know why they can't do that for Murray at Wimbledon.

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I play from time to time at the USTA center and the courts seem to have gotten a tad slower over the last few years. Or else my serve really sucks now
I think it's your serve . Agree with you on Blatter though, he is sucking the life out of football.
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