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Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

After witnessing that Marat 5th set TB travesty today, I have to wonder why the USO has this stupid rule. The other Grand Slams don't. What's the reasoning?!

It really seems unfair (to the loser, at least) to have a 3+ hour match decided by a few points at the very end, especially when both players have held serve in the 5th set (like Marat and Tommy did today).

For the record, even before this match, I thought the USO 5th set TB was stupid. Maybe we should start a protest. Get rid of the 5th set TB, USO!

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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

otherwise the matches would be too long....... for television....for the spectators.....

I agree....stupid rule!

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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

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otherwise the matches would be too long....... for television....for the spectators.....
If they've sat there for 3 hours, they can sit there for another 30 minutes, I say.

Some of our baseball games are well over 4 hours. They don't mind broadcasting those on TV.
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With the amount of rain during this tournament I couldn't imagine having matches going 11-9 in the 5th. It's only 2 weeks and already several days have been washed out.

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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

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The official reason… is tradition…. It was always considered to be an easier way of maintaining a strict schedule of play
Why don't the other Grand Slams have this "tradition" then? They have the same strict scheduling challenges.
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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

Why not? Other non-grandslam tourneys don't do it... 1st-4th sets don't exclude a tiebreak... Why the 5th set? The 5th is played like any of the first 4, I don't see why that's so wrong...

And also, a tiebreak in a 5th set makes it less likely that the 5th will be won because the other player started cramping... In some aspects, it makes the 5th set more about skill and a player's ability to play the biggest points well, which is nice.

That's not to say I'm against a no-tiebreak 5th, because it could be argued that this method is actually more demonstrative of a player's skill level as it forces one to stay on serve and also accomplish the most difficult thing in a tennis match, which is to break.

I like both formats.
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After witnessing that Marat 5th set TB travesty today, I have to wonder why the USO has this stupid rule. The other Grand Slams don't. What's the reasoning?!

It really seems unfair (to the loser, at least) to have a 3+ hour match decided by a few points at the very end, especially when both players have held serve in the 5th set (like Marat and Tommy did today).

For the record, even before this match, I thought the USO 5th set TB was stupid. Maybe we should start a protest. Get rid of the 5th set TB, USO!
Boo hoo. And if it was Haas that lost, would you be posting?
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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

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After witnessing that Marat 5th set TB travesty today, I have to wonder why the USO has this stupid rule. The other Grand Slams don't. What's the reasoning?!

It really seems unfair (to the loser, at least) to have a 3+ hour match decided by a few points at the very end, especially when both players have held serve in the 5th set (like Marat and Tommy did today).

For the record, even before this match, I thought the USO 5th set TB was stupid. Maybe we should start a protest. Get rid of the 5th set TB, USO!
Funny I didn't see you starting a thread when Marat beat Nalbandian in the fifth set tie-break on Sunday.

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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

I hate Tie Break rule in the fifith set. Winning a tie break is just like winning a lottery ticket. Nalbandian should have won that match against safin but got unlucky with the netcords. Same thing happened to Ginepri and Safin. Haas has already won two lottery tickets. Obviously players who rely on thier service games will definetly have a good advantage.. Obviously some players like tie breaks and does no lke playing long matches.


I hope US Open scraps this tie break rule in the fifth set in future.
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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

Non-conformity is a good thing.

Speaking of baseball, one of the really cool things about that sport is how each stadium is significantly different in their dimensions. It gives each park certain advantages and disadvantages, favors certain strategies and certain styles of play. It makes things interesting.

Each of the four Grand Slams have certain aspects to them that are unique. Keep it that way.
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Boo hoo. And if it was Haas that lost, would you be posting?
Does it matter? I'm simply wondering why there is a 5th set tie break in only one of the four grand slams.

And like I said, I thought it was a stupid rule before today's match.

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Re: Why exactly does the US Open have a 5th set tie break?

A fifth set tiebreak forces you to make every shot count. Both players know that going in. Safin blew several critical points despite being up 3-1 at one point, he simply broke down mentally. It's easier for scheduling and puts less physical strain on the players. I think both style 5th sets have their advantages however and I think some diversity between slams is a good thing.

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After witnessing that Marat 5th set TB travesty today, I have to wonder why the USO has this stupid rule. The other Grand Slams don't. What's the reasoning?!

It really seems unfair (to the loser, at least) to have a 3+ hour match decided by a few points at the very end, especially when both players have held serve in the 5th set (like Marat and Tommy did today).

For the record, even before this match, I thought the USO 5th set TB was stupid. Maybe we should start a protest. Get rid of the 5th set TB, USO!
Do you agree that Nabaldian should have won that match against Safin?
Or you are posting because it did not favor Safin Today?
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Or you are posting because it did not favor Safin Today?
I'm posting because it's a legitimate question.
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The Whole reason they have the 5th set TB is solely for TV
I think this is probably the actual reason. Wouldn't surprise me at all.
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