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Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

Or why does that perception persist?

Does Australia's interest in tennis wane when no Australians are at the top of the game? France? England? Germany?

Or is this just an American phenomenon?

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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

So ridiculous.

You ever seen fans from most other countries that even travel abroad like say for the Chileans or Marcos and the way they act? You think in Cyprus that anyone is as popular in tennis or that they don't care if he wins?

Truth is that for so long, the US players dominated the slams fo so long that it's simply something the American public is use to seeing.

I don't understand why it's used in a negative context, please. If England or France has as many grand slam champions in the past decade, they'd be just as behind them if not more.

They simply haven't had the numbers in the past.

And a sidenote, not being supportive of the players from your own tennis schools and countries is not a virtue.

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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

we dont well atleast i dont i hate all american players including andre the only one i like is robby and i dont know why i even like him
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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

The RG crowd fell in love with Guga and it was a love story with him till the end. They're faithful to him (even against French players). And on the contrary they loathed Leconte...

There were some other nice "love stories" like this in RG and other Slams.

I don't think any crowd as a whole is that "partisan" but the part of the crowd that is stupid like that is the one which makes the more noise. You can't stop them. You "undergo" them, you try to bear with them until you get really pissed off...When you try to make them stop you get throwed things at you, insulted et al (i know it, it's always the same in Bercy...) etc... I've never been to RG except once and to any other tennis tournament.

It's pretty much the same everywhere. No national specificity about it.

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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

We can only guess.....

America's sports market is very saturated, tennis is pretty low on the ladder. When you have an American that's on tv all the time, etc., etc., your non-tennis fans will take notice. For actual tennis fans, I don't think it matters much.

We're a patriotic people and we like to support and pay attention to our own successes. If done to a reasonable extent, I don't see a problem with that. Moreover, we are used to having champions.

I mean, the way England latches onto its stars and even potential stars or the way the media pays such close attention to Lleyton and Flip's seemingly every move, it seems to me that even more attention is paid on those countries' tennis stars than here. So IS it really that much worse in the US? Maybe, I'm not sure.

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There's as much penis envy in MTF as the UN, that's why it's asked and talked about so much Deb.

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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

I think it's because there's always been American players at the top of the game. It is only recently that tennis dominance has shifted towards the rest of the globe. So I think it's more of a "getting used to" phase. Other countries are definitely more interested when their own players start doing well.

This is not an American-only phenomenon. Don't judge us because of all those turds sitting on the J-block acting like drunken assholes.
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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

As Deb said, the sports market is so saturated, there has HAS to be an American player for there to be general interest. Tennis is competing with much more popular team sports and then with golf as well.

I remember reading earlier this year about how Gonzo was surprised that the Davis Cup tie was not front page news like it was back home. It's just not the biggest sport around and has way too much competition to ever really make it out of where it is now in all honesty. The only time tennis is ever really big news here is during the Open because it is played here, the time difference is not a factor, American players usually do well, and so on. Agassi winning that match against Baggy was the top story on late night Sportscenter on ESPN. That never happens. Even the US Open final doesn't get that because the final is usually played on the opening day of football.

The networks are also going to keep going with what has worked in the past. American playerrs always generate more interest here and that means higher ratings. Now, if this happens every single time, of course the networks, metdia, etc. are going to pimp the American players.
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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

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We can only guess.....

America's sports market is very saturated, tennis is pretty low on the ladder. When you have an American that's on tv all the time, etc., etc., your non-tennis fans will take notice. For actual tennis fans, I don't think it matters much.

We're a patriotic people and we like to support and pay attention to our own successes. If done to a reasonable extent, I don't see a problem with that. Moreover, we are used to having champions.

I mean, the way England latches onto its stars and even potential stars or the way the media pays such close attention to Lleyton and Flip's seemingly every move, it seems to me that even more attention is paid on those countries' tennis stars than here. So IS it really that much worse in the US? Maybe, I'm not sure.
Good point, but I just get tired of all the "2 Americans left in the draw;" or - as in the case of this year's Wimbledon "no Americans left in the draw" talk. UGH. There were no Brits in the Wimbledon final, but England still watched. I just wonder why it is a problem for US fans to just appreciate good tennis, even if it's not being played by Americans.

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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

Wimbledon has often shown great interest in non-British players. Possibly owing to days of empire the British have always tended to be more aware of the rest of the world than many countries.

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Re: Why do Americans need American players to enjoy/appreciate tennis?

Well since that isn't the case, the question is really off.

It will still be packed and aired on network television.

If you haven't figured out why, in general, casual fans root for people that speak the same language and have the same background and nationality then you need to be angry at genetics for not giving you common sense, not US fans.

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We're a patriotic people and we like to support and pay attention to our own successes. If done to a reasonable extent, I don't see a problem with that. Moreover, we are used to having champions.
I would say that many citizens of a bunch of different countries that I have visited are much more patriotic than Americans.

But yes, Americans are used to having athletes winning and winning a lot so when Americans AREN'T winning, there is less interest. This isn't true of all Americans, but it is probably true for most Americans and T.V. ratings have proven that time and time again.
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Good point, but I just get tired of all the "2 Americans left in the draw;" or - as in the case of this year's Wimbledon "no Americans left in the draw" talk. UGH. There were no Brits in the Wimbledon final, but England still watched. I just wonder why it is a problem for US fans to just appreciate good tennis, even if it's not being played by Americans.
A lot of diehard American tennis fans do, but not the masses. There is way too much competition for their TV viewing time and history has proven that if an American is not involved, they won't be watching.
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