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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

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Stupid Saturday.
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

"SUPER STUPID ALLFORMONEY SATURADAY"
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

Did the 4th set performances of Agassi and Roddick in their respective finals relate to longer semi-final matches than Federer.

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Did the 4th set performances of Agassi and Roddick in their respective finals relate to longer semi-final matches than Federer.
Actually, I think Federer's SF was longer than Agassi's last year, not to mention him playing 2nd.
This year it was evident Roddick ran out of steam, and that must have something to do with scheduling, although in 2003 he played the 2nd SF, a marathon-match with Nlabandian, and crushed poor Ferrero the next day.
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Actually, I think Federer's SF was longer than Agassi's last year, not to mention him playing 2nd.
This year it was evident Roddick ran out of steam, and that must have something to do with scheduling, although in 2003 he played the 2nd SF, a marathon-match with Nlabandian, and crushed poor Ferrero the next day.
Agassi 5 sets against Ginepri. Federer 4 sets against Hewitt.

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Agassi 5 sets against Ginepri. Federer 4 sets against Hewitt.
But Federer's match lasted just over 3 hours whereas Agassi's lasted just under 3 hours.

Credit to Agassi for winning all those 5 setters last year, but none of them was a real marathon match.
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

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Blake, there are no excuses. It is very simple, if all players are fit that's great but they are not machines. So even though they can come back and play a good match, the player with less time to recover will be less fresh. Sure, they can compete, win games, win sets, and maybe even win the match. But they will be doing it without being as fresh as the player who gets more time to recover.
True but the 1st semi finalist rarely gets more than three extra hours to recover anyway.

It's really not that big a difference in time.
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

Stupid Saturday, for the reasons already pointed out by others.


I don't like hypocrites, but even worse are the ones who think it's OK to be an asshole as long as you are not hypocritical.
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Article : The Stupid Saturday Protest, this should happen in todays climate

Wilander and Edberg protested about Stupid Saturday, would be good if this happened today.

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-09-...st-time-change

The day known as Super Saturday in tennis circles started off with a mild protest from a most unlikely source at the U.S. Open.

Two Swedes registered the protest, which surely sounds like a contradiction in terms. But Mats Wilander and Stefan Edberg became Swedish rebels with a cause when they decided they were mad as hell and weren't going to take it anymore.

OK, protests are nothing new in a game that has given us John McEnroe and Jimmy Connors. In tennis, tantrums are as normal as throwing a ball in the air to serve.

However, the Swedish version of making a statement, registering a complaint, was merely an extension of their personalities. Calm but forceful and to the point.

Wilander adopted the leadership role, and Edberg merely went along as they used delay tactics for ammunition in their small fight with the United States Tennis Assn. Upset over the 10 a.m., EDT, starting time for their semifinal Saturday, they stalled in the locker room and took the Stadium Court 15 minutes late.

"It was wrong that Stefan played Thursday and Friday (doubles) and he had to play first on Saturday. It just didn't make sense to me. They had said 11. They informed my mother-in-law of the change, they didn't speak to me. It wasn't really a protest. We just wanted to show that they can't just do any time that want."

Fittingly, Wilander made these comments to a CBS reporter, and it's interesting because television is widely regarded as the villain in this whole mess. When Wilander and Edberg made their feelings clear after the match, tournament referee Gayle Bradshaw and men's supervisor Ken Farrar were brought in to offer their side of the story.

It quickly turned into the Gayle and Ken Show, as the two men fended off questions from a roomful of reporters, sometimes resulting in comical responses. Dodging the issue of fairness, Bradshaw said the popularity of the Lendl-Connors matchup basically dictated the policy decision. When asked why Edberg, who played a five-set doubles final Friday, had to take the court before Connors or Lendl, who hadn't played since Wednesday, Farrar interrupted.

"He doesn't have to play doubles," Farrar said.

This came from a man who is employed by the men's pro council, a group that encourages the players to compete in doubles events, to give the public more of a chance to see the top players.

And both Bradshaw and Farrar skirted the issue of CBS' control of the schedule, saying that all possibilites were considered before reaching a conclusion. However, it's almost a sure bet that CBS was not going to put Lendl and Connors on at 10 a.m. in the East, meaning 7 in the West.

Bradshaw said he hadn't known Wilander was even protesting, claiming he had only heard rumors that the players were only trying to get a "dig' in at the officials.

Meanwhile, Edberg didn't even remember who eventually came to get them to come to the court.

"It was too early," he said. "It is the same guys who are always around. We said we were coming out a little bit late and we did."

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Article : The Stupid Saturday Protest, this should happen in todays climate

I'd like to see that from any of the top players today, but I highly doubt it.
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

Will Djokovic discover the problem of playing in less than 24 hours after a 5 set match.
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

I agree it is pretty dumb, but it has been played this way for ages now, not like if it was something one could complain about, rules are the same for all.
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

It's stupid of course, it's all about marketing...then what can you expect from humans?
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

Stupid Saturday.
WtA and ATP alternate their semis and finals, with WTA taking Thursday and Saturday while the ATP takes Friday and Sunday.
Not saying players have excuses or whatnot, it's just fair to give a full day's rest between the semifinals and a match where a GS is on the line!

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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

It's OUTRAGEOUS! The final wont be a fair fight! It has already been decided by the organisers and the luck of the draw!
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