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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

True. Moreover, it's a prime example of TV and dollars being prioritised over the integrity and wellbeing of the sport, so he'd never even countenance changing it if he had the power to.

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I don't like it - for no other reason than that when 2 players are playing in the finals of a GS tourney, they should show up playing their best tennis. When they're both playing a best-of-five the day before, they AREN'T going to be playing their best. I think it sucks for the fans, personally.


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Another reason why Super Saturday exists, is that the USTA doesn't think that a day with just the women's final, and no men's tennis, will be enough to sell out the Arthur Ashe Stadium. I don't if they are right or not. For instance would the 2003 women's final between the two belgians have sold out if it hadn't followed two thrilling men's semi-finals, involving Agassi and Roddick? I think it still will have done but I'm not totally sure.
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The one year I was able to get tickets it was great.
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Another reason why Super Saturday exists, is that the USTA doesn't think that a day with just the women's final, and no men's tennis, will be enough to sell out the Arthur Ashe Stadium. I don't if they are right or not. For instance would the 2003 women's final between the two belgians have sold out if it hadn't followed two thrilling men's semi-finals, involving Agassi and Roddick? I think it still will have done but I'm not totally sure.
Wimbledon manages to sell out the womens final on the Saturday (plus men's doubles) easily enough. I'm sure they could still do it even if the CC held as many as Ashe.
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

It is "Unfair Saturday". At least, they should pre-announce which semifinal goes first at the beginning of the tournament, the second semifinal winner has less time to recover than the first, other things being equal.

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Wimbledon manages to sell out the womens final on the Saturday (plus men's doubles) easily enough. I'm sure they could still do it even if the CC held as many as Ashe.
I agree with that. I certainly think that the USTA are seriously underestimating women's tennis here.
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True. Moreover, it's a prime example of TV and dollars being prioritised over the integrity and wellbeing of the sport, so he'd never even countenance changing it if he had the power to.
Yes, but one could argue that TV ratings, the generation of revenue $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and exposure in general IS for the wellbeing of the sport. Not for the well-being of players necessarily, but probably for the sport. Players just kind of get shafted, especially whoever plays the 2nd SF.
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Wimbledon manages to sell out the womens final on the Saturday (plus men's doubles) easily enough. I'm sure they could still do it even if the CC held as many as Ashe.

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Another reason why Super Saturday exists, is that the USTA doesn't think that a day with just the women's final, and no men's tennis, will be enough to sell out the Arthur Ashe Stadium. I don't if they are right or not. For instance would the 2003 women's final between the two belgians have sold out if it hadn't followed two thrilling men's semi-finals, involving Agassi and Roddick? I think it still will have done but I'm not totally sure.
I don't think that's true in recent years, as the Women's final is no longer sandwiched between the men's semis, but has become the Marquee night event with prime time showing and all the spectacle of a Olympics opening ceremonies.
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Yes, but one could argue that TV ratings, the generation of revenue $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and exposure in general IS for the wellbeing of the sport. Not for the well-being of players necessarily, but probably for the sport. Players just kind of get shafted, especially whoever plays the 2nd SF.
No use arguing with a guy who thinks the Williams sisters ruined the women's game.
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I'd rather see the players rested and play a great final than have the Super Saturday. Some players spend a lot more time on court then others. It's harder to recover from multiple 5 set matches then if breezing through the draw in 3 set matches. (i.e. Agassi/Federer 2005) It was a good match, but I wonder if it would have been even better if Agassi had had a day off before the final.
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I both like and dislike it. While it makes for a great day of tennis with the men's semi's and the women's finals it is tough on the players and has at times made for some lackluster finals. But it's a bit better than it used to be when the men's matches were sandwiched around the womens final--then the winner of the second semi was at even more of disadvantage the next day.
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R. Federer - stop the excuses. If these players are in the shape they claim, they'll be fine.

Players, like Andy M. and Novak are the only ones who couldn't make it. The more likely semifinalist - Roddick, Federer, Nadal, Gonzalez, Marcos, Berdych, etc. - have NO EXCUSES!
Blake, there are no excuses. It is very simple, if all players are fit that's great but they are not machines. So even though they can come back and play a good match, the player with less time to recover will be less fresh. Sure, they can compete, win games, win sets, and maybe even win the match. But they will be doing it without being as fresh as the player who gets more time to recover.

Also, I would add James to the group along with Andy M and Novak
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Re: What do you think "Super Saturday" or "Stupid Saturday"?

Stupid Saturday.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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