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Are you in favour of more Round-Robin events?

Following on from an article that someone else posted, it would be interesting to see the poll results on what fans think about round robin events. It's all about the fans, after all.

I myself think round robin blows, and never want to see it. I guess Masters Cup is a bit different with the fact it's only a 8 man field. But as for normal tournaments, I never want to see it. Round Robin sucks a fat one. What do you think?
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I think it blows. Round Robin is just a way for TPTB to pimp the fed-man and Rafa.

They are taking the sport out of tennis.
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Re: Are you in favour of more Round-Robin events?

Not the last Daffy Duck proposal to emanate from former Disney chief Villiers, you can bet on that.

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Re: Are you in favour of more Round-Robin events?

Round Robin will also create more 'meaningless' matches. i.e. Federer has already qualified for the next stage by the time he plays his last RR match, meaning it doesn't matter whether he wins or loses, he will progress. Not something I like to see. The cut throat nature of tennis tournaments is one of the things that makes the tour great.

You can also have the situation where Player A has no chance of progressing to the next stage by the time he play his last RR match. You probably won't see his full effort as he goes through the motions before catching the early flight home.
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No. I'm okay with a couple but more than that would be really annoying.

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No way.
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No.

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NO. And wouldn't it drive ticket prices through the roof, since losing players would have to stick around for several more days?

Would this allow them to post matches in advance, so we could buy tickets for matches we wanted to see? Otherwise I can't see an upside at all. More crappy matches @even more inflated prices.

And which tournaments would be screwed up by this? I hope just the dinky local ones, not the Masters' which are the only good tournaments left, now that the Majors are so radically over-seeded & designed rather than actually randomly drawn to boot.
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Re: Are you in favour of more Round-Robin events?

tennis is becoming like the nba, baseball, nhl where so many games are just tanked, players rested etc.

thats why i loved tennis because in every match, each player puts 100%.

RR will start to become an exhibition instead of a real tournament.
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Most one-sided poll results ever.
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Re: Are you in favour of more Round-Robin events?

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NO. And wouldn't it drive ticket prices through the roof, since losing players would have to stick around for several more days?

Would this allow them to post matches in advance, so we could buy tickets for matches we wanted to see? Otherwise I can't see an upside at all. More crappy matches @even more inflated prices.

And which tournaments would be screwed up by this? I hope just the dinky local ones, not the Masters' which are the only good tournaments left, now that the Majors are so radically over-seeded & designed rather than actually randomly drawn to boot.
Étienne de Villiers has already talked about the Masters events as we know them going away in the future. It sure sounds like they want more IW/Miami type tournaments. The WTA just bout the tournament in San Diego and the rumblings I've heard is that tournament is history and there may be a combined ATP/WTA event in Cincy. I wonder if the WTA is thinking about this too? Of course they came up with that wonderful idea of on-court coaching, since I guess players can't think for themselves out there.

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Re: Are you in favour of more Round-Robin events?

How can you NOT like round-robin play.

-The best players will almost always go through.
-There will be a big name in each group, so every journeyman is guaranteed tv-coverage.
-Acts as a warm up for the business-end of the tournament.
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Re: Are you in favour of more Round-Robin events?

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How can you NOT like round-robin play.

-The best players will almost always go through.
-There will be a big name in each group, so every journeyman is guaranteed tv-coverage.
-Acts as a warm up for the business-end of the tournament.
So that's what lower ranked players are? Just warm up acts? :retard:

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Well, here in the U.S., plenty of the Top 10, Top 20 players such as Nalbandian, Robredo, Davydenko, etc. aren't shown on TV to begin with. One has to wait till the quarterfinal/semifinal stages are reached if one wants to see them on TV. So unless the journeyman was American, I doubt that the round-robin format would increase his chances of being shown on U.S. TV even if he was playing a top player.

Nor would I watch tennis on a regular basis if a top player or "star" player was featured on TV in every match. Top players are few in number, and the big celebrities/crowd-getters are even fewer, and if they were all I saw on TV, that would be quite uninteresting.
Whether RRs are used or not, won't change the fact that only the big names are broadcast. So you can stop watching tennis as it is.

In the RR system, Fed will have 2 journeyman in his group, which are guaranteed to get coverage. Whereas in knock-out competition, he would face a higher ranked opponent as early as the next round.

Should 2 players proceed from each RR, then Fed will logically play the lesser-ranked player who succeeded in an opposing group.
Now take into account that every seed will have his share of 3-journeyman, and you've got a whole lot of nomadic tennis (which, although crap, pleases a lot of fuck ups).
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