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Question What is the difference between Safin's game and Roddick's game?

A lot of people on this board say Roddick is very one-dimensional, big serve, big groundies. Strategy is hit hard, hard, hard. He is talentless and everyone else on the tour is better then him but some can't even beat him.

When I've seen Safin's matches I see the exact same thing: Big serve, huge groundstokes, hit hard, hard, hard. Yet I don't see much anti-Safin rhetoric being spewed on the board. Why? Is it the attention Roddick gets? Is it because he's an American on a board where most people hate America or Americans? Or is it because he is a threat to your favorite player? I'm not fan of Roddick myself, I prefer the Swede's more than anyone. Yet I see a lot of people on this board who fawn over players with as much talent as people claim Roddick has-none. What gives?




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Dont compare Safin with Andy.
Marat has a thing called TOUCH. That comes directly from talent, special skills. He is a magic, so I dont get where he could be classified as a heavy hitter and thats it. NO WAY!

And the problem with Pandy is mainly the attention people give him. Its WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY too much. I know its not his fault, but you cant dissociate it, since the guy will be on tv playing Mr Nobody WhatsHisName on Center Court while some topten clash is going on at an OUTSIDE court.
THATS the real problem with Andy. And he is easy to poke fun at.


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Ahem, have you seen Roddick's backhand and Safin's groundstrokes are so fluid and not jerky! I hope soon we'll see them play each other in big events so you can actually see the difference in their game, light years my friend, light years!

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everyone else on the tour is better then him but some can't even beat him.
Everyone that I say is better than Roddick, either hasn't lost to him (Hewitt, Safin, Haas), or hasn't played him (Ferrero).

As for hating Americans...please

I adore James Blake, and last time I checked he was flying the red, white and blue.

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I should also add, that comparing ROddicks game to Safins is *almost* funny

Safins strokes are far more fluid - he makes it look easy, not awkward

He also IMO. moves better, which doesn't really say much mind you

Safin can actualyl hit the ball hard, and know where it is going. Safin can place his serves, and hit aces without just hitting them as hard as possible

Despite all that, my reasons for taking the piss out of Andy aren't even based on his game. I take the piss out of him, because its just TOO easy not to.

Furthermore no player who has done so little, has been so hyped. Maybe he'll live up to the hype, but untill then its unjusitfied and annoying.

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I'm American, and I can't stand the Prick.

He's incredibly annoying. Everything about him, every facet of the game personality, grates on my nerves.

And, like Becca said, he just makes it so easy.

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Whereever did you get the impression that most posters hate America or Americans??? I'm online pretty much all the time and have read nearly all the threads, and your observation makes no sense to me. Please don't equate Roddick with America. Personally, I love America and Americans, but American tennis players - not so much, except for James Blake. It has nothing to do with their nationality and everything to do with thier personality. Peace.

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Something about the "do you just hate them cause they are american?" suggestion, is just SOOOOOO WTAworld

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lol
Its really ludicrous to come up with that.
And I told you already... I like american tennis players: Gonzalez, Guga, Canas... ah, and James Blake.

Seriously, it has NOTHING to do with nationality, but comparing Roddick with Safin is just not right, imo.

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Something about the "do you just hate them cause they are american?" suggestion, is just SOOOOOO WTAworld
LMAO Becca! Something else that's so WTAWorld: "You hate the Williams sisters? It must be because you're racist."

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Marat has a complete game, and can do everything .

Roddick has the worst backhand in the top 10 since Greg Rusedski (but he can chip it), Roddicks is just pathetic.

just a serve and thats all, and yesterday he found out what happens when he plays a similar player but with a 10 times better game.

Gonzo cleaned him up
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I was taking the piss in a good natured sort of way...

I just feel that there are enough people in the world who ARE Antiamerican that it is useless to focus on those who aren't really.

All that said it wan't an accusation, more of a suggestion..

One I don't agree with, but I wanted to get it across I was intending to be rude to 'Go monica' (sorry, its easier to type )

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i was born in a continent called America as Hitman and Rebecca, so i am "american" too.
i am not from USA that's another story i like a lot american players (they are my favs) as Guga, Meligeni, Lapentti, Delgado, González, Chela, Cañas, etc.

luckyly there aren't williams playing in the atptour otherwise you would see the general messages board full of silly threads started by dawn marie, freethinker, teerexx, etc.

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Dickhead doesn't even have a good forehand. He is just all serve. Marat has a complete game with fantastic big groundies, huge serve, and soft touch at net. He has natural talent. Dickhead has non.

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Just curious

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