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Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

From his AO finals interview:

"Federer, he has better -- he a little bit -- I don't want to take anything from Pete. I mean, mentally, he was the strongest player on the tour. He has the biggest serve in the world. He has an unbelievable forehand and very good hands in the volley. But sometimes he was missing a little bit the backhand.

So Roger, he has -- he has everything and a backhand. Probably he doesn't have enough volley like Pete Sampras. But he is really good. I mean, he can volley. It's a little bit different story."
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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

So Marat says Roger has better everything, except volleys.

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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

1jackson, I don't read that.

He also says that Sampras' serve is bigger and he doesn't state that Federer's forehand is necessarily better.

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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

its to hard to compare right now as i dont think federer is at his peak right now
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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

Actually this answer is too confusing. I think that Marat was talking of Sampras in the serve section....

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Re: Re: Safin:

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So Marat says Roger has better everything, except volleys.
Well obviously his serve is not as awesome as Sampras was and thank god for that by the way!

The volleys I think are just as good except for maybe the half volleys. I would still say Sampras forehand was more explosive and powerful than Federer's (though probably not as secure), actually Lundgren Federer's ex-coach said before the final, that the only minor weakness in the Federer arsenal is when he is being atacked deep in the forehand side. He just needs more time there than he does on backhand side where he of course can choose to hit one of his out of this world defensive shots. When it came to Sampras when on form the forehand side was just a place you NEVER EVER wanted to go and if you did BOOOOM....and the next thing you know, you would look like a junior struggling to stay at his feet almost, desperately trying to handle the explosion..

Having said all that. Like many others I do think Federer is the best, most complete and most talented player we have ever seen.

Sampras because of his serve and mental strenght (concentration) was just more unbeatable.

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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

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Sampras because of his serve and mental strenght (concentration) was just more unbeatable.
Which is not a positive thing, I'd say.

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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

PS: If this isn't Roger's peak what is? He makes these GS victories look effortless!

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PS: If this isn't Roger's peak what is? He makes these GS victories look effortless!
there is still doubt in his mind which leads to silly unforced errors that will become far more rare with experience.

Not enough use of the net game, yes he is capable of beating everyone from the baseline as he has shown this AO but he should use the volley more even on this surface

I can see just about every shot improving marginally over the next few years, he is very good but no shot is perfect so there is certainly room for improvement
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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

The fact that there is room for improvement (which there always is), doesn't mean that there'll also some improvements, though. I do think that Roger could become an even better player, but he's definitely at his peak for this moment.

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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

I agree. Just because there is room for improvement, doesn't mean the improvements will be made to full possible effect/potential.

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Re: Re: Safin:

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Which is not a positive thing, I'd say.
Well I felt that way for a long time. He was always beating my favorite players and kept winning tournament after tournament without much trouble it seemed. But later (especially after Becker retired and I didn't have to worry about his particular chances anymore) I began to appreciate the amazing effectiveness of his tennis and how he had pefected his style of play.

And later when he began to sometimes struggle, I suddenly found myself rooting for him. I didn't like to see a great player like that fall from grace.

Therefore his final victory in the U.S Open stands as one of my all time sporting highlights.
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I agree. Just because there is room for improvement, doesn't mean the improvements will be made to full possible effect/potential.
True but looking at the history of tennis the vast majority of players improved after the age of 22
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Re: Safin: "Roger is better than Pete"

Yes Raoul, his play was great to look at, but in general, he made tennis a lot more boring. Why would you watch Wimbledon if you already know he's going to win? In fact, his game is the kind of game that really appeals to me, but I never liked Sampras, for the way he controlled the game in every aspect.

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Roger said the two things he will work on this year are his Serve and Volleys. His other things will naturally improve over time. Roger cares about being the best he can be and therefore he will grow, but I do hope he finds a great coach soon.
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