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Implications of Federer ending his season

How many records are going to come to an end?
A few come to my mind, first time without a title in a year since 2001. First time not finish the year in top 10 since 2002/2001.

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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

First time missing WTF since 2002, which was the first time he qualified. No Cincinnati since 2001. First time missing the Olympics.
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First time he won't reach the Basel final since 2005.
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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

we may as well accept that any play we get from Fed now will be him as a part time tennis player, its difficult to know how competitive he'll be in that case.

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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

I for one say forget the grand slams and perhaps even a lot of the Master Series 1000 events, focus on the 250s and 500s and win a lot of those, forget rankings, go for most singles titles and career wins this way!
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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

No Fedal matches. First time since 2004.
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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

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I for one say forget the grand slams and perhaps even a lot of the Master Series 1000 events, focus on the 250s and 500s and win a lot of those, forget rankings, go for most singles titles and career wins this way!
So you want Federer to embarrass himself by playing only to vulture 250s in an attempt to break the titles record? Funny

Pretty sure Federer would rather quit tennis than be reduced to that.
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So you want Federer to embarrass himself by playing only to vulture 250s in an attempt to break the titles record? Funny

Pretty sure Federer would rather quit tennis than be reduced to that.
Titles record is far out of reach, not sure why anyone thinks that should be a goal.
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No Fedal matches. First time since 2004.
Since 2003, actually. They played in Miami in 2004.

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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

First year without multiple top 10 wins since 1999.
First year that he doesn't play doubles since 1997.

Lowest number of match wins since 1999 (21 in 2016, 13 in 1999).
Lowest number of Masters match wins since 2000 (3 in 2016, 2 in 2000).
Lowest number of Grand Slam match wins since 2002 (10 in 2016, 6 in 2002).

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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

For me, missing a 5th Olympics and a chance to medal in each of the three disciplines (mixed doubles was missing) sucks most. If he recovers well and can play decently for another 2 seasons or so, that'd be great and totally worth the break. I don't mind him missing a few Master's and another slam (especially since his slam streak was broken at the French already).

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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

For tennis it is a big loss. For Federer's overall career, it's not a big deal. He should prioritise Wimbledon in the remainder of his career because it's his best chance of winning another Grand Slam. It's nice to play in and win other events, but they don't really mean that much to his legacy at this stage.
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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

Somebody will send Federer a giant gift basket in November for the last guy in WTF. Goffin, Berdych, and/or Monfils the likely candidates at this point
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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

A Federer-less WTF and YE top 10 are the big ones. It is impressive stuff that he managed to make the WTF consecutively for so long, and as he was always a major factor there his absence will be felt. Obviously he misses the USO as well but as his long slam participation streak was already just broken that one is not as significant.

In terms of implications for the rest of the tour, the main ones are an extra WTF spot opening up and that now not just one, but two spots in the top 4 are definitely up for grabs. Maybe if Nadal comes back well he can seal one for himself, but then the other would almost certainly go to Raonic, and if Nadal still has problems then we could possibly see both Raonic and Nishikori in the top 4 which would be quite a momentous change. For the WTF players like Monfils and Goffin could have a genuine shot, and it is a safer bet for Thiem. So there could be a few new WTF participants - most likely though it won't be that different with the current top 8 in the race getting in, with Thiem being the only newxomer and Raonic the only one who hasnt been a regular recently.

It also increases the chances of a new champion in Cincinnati. Either Murray or Nadal would have to win it and I wouldn't consider either of them strong favourites - especially following the Olympics.
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Re: implications of Fed ending his season

It increases the odds that Djokovic will become the first player ever to complete the career Slam/Masters/Tour Finals set this year.

I agree the most notable implication is the end of Federer's amazing 14 year streak of World Tour Finals made.
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