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View Poll Results: WHO'S GOING TO WIN MARAT OR ANDY ?
ANDY 11 26.19%
MARAT 27 64.29%
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in 1/4 finale who do u think is going to win?
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I want Safin to win but its going to be tough.
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does it really matter? if there's a poll, and Safin is one of the choices, people just vote for him right away probably without even reading what the poll is all about. oh and btw, there's already a poll about this matchup

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Well I don't know ... but I hope Marat

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Marat Safin ...
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I don't mind voting for Marat again in this poll. Go Marat!!

But, safinagirly, I'm curious as to why you would start a second poll when there is already one on the board.

Naldo, I'm surprised that you implied people vote blindly for Marat in any poll regardless of his form and mentality. I really expected Andy to be the overwhelming favorite in the first poll posted here because he's ranked number one and he's been demolishing his opponents. I kind of thought tennis viewers had short memories and wouldn't even care that Marat was trying to make a comeback. What do you think?

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I don't mind voting for Marat again in this poll. Go Marat!!

But, safinagirly, I'm curious as to why you would start a second poll when there is already one on the board.

Naldo, I'm surprised that you implied people vote blindly for Marat in any poll regardless of his form and mentality. I really expected Andy to be the overwhelming favorite in the first poll posted here because he's ranked number one and he's been demolishing his opponents. I kind of thought tennis viewers had short memories and wouldn't even care that Marat was trying to make a comeback. What do you think?
errr, i just said people vote for Marat without even reading what the poll has to do with, not regarding what his current form and mentality stands.
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oops I misread the question and voted for Marat. He'll win no doubt, but perhaps without a bagel. I actually would have voted for Roger or Andre.

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I hope Safin wins but I think Roddick will win...
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who did you vote for anantak2k?
interested if you voted properly, or just voted safin like i said earlier about polls and safin put together

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Naldo, thanks for clarifying the "Marat" phenomenon. I would say that it's been my experience that many people don't read carefully, whether it's a Marat poll or not. I'm not familiar with the poll you used as an example. Did it have to do with specific matchups? Did you notice the same voting pattern in the first Andy vs Marat poll?

I really like to see a player's form when it's possible before I make a choice. Otherwise, I'll usually say in my post that I haven't been able to see enough of a player to do more than speculate.

To the second part of my question, why isn't Andy an overwhelming favorite with his ranking and tournament performance? I've always gotten the impression that Andy has a very large fan base.
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To the second part of my question, why isn't Andy an overwhelming favorite with his ranking and tournament performance? I've always gotten the impression that Andy has a very large fan base.
Sure. he gets crowd support almost everywhere he goes. Not here, though. If you look at the first poll that was created an who voted for it, save for maybe two or three people, of those who OPENLY say they do not like Andy voted for Marat. And to be fair, most of those who OPENLY like Andy voted for Andy. It's pretty much a pervasive trend here at MTF. That's why the polls mean absolutely diddly

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Sure. he gets crowd support almost everywhere he goes. Not here, though. If you look at the first poll that was created an who voted for it, save for maybe two or three people, of those who OPENLY say they do not like Andy voted for Marat. And to be fair, most of those who OPENLY like Andy voted for Andy. It's pretty much a pervasive trend here at MTF. That's why the polls mean absolutely diddly
It's interesting that you've come to that conclusion about this board. I only frequent this board and WTAWorld.com because the other boards I've seen don't appeal to me. But, I'm sure that I've seen a lot of pro Andy threads here and, surprisingly, on the WTAWorld general board during USO '03. Also, despite the ESPN/media hype, I would never have chosen Rudseski(sp) at Wimbledon, Henman at the USO, or Dent here to beat Andy. Greg and Tim were coming off of injuries and Tim beating Andy at a tune up is NOT Tim beating Andy at his home country major. Dent showed glimpses of new form at USO '03. I was hoping he would perform well. But, he's not 2004 Andy ready. It is possible that I miscontrued the number of fans with the frequency and intensity of their posts. For example, there is a "Is Andy Ready to Dominate?" thread on the AO forum that I thought would be an interesting discussion of the contrasting styles of the current elite players. Unfortunately, the thread didn't develop into that type of discussion and so I had nothing to contribute to or learn from the discussion.

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Ummmmm.... well let's see. There is the "Duck Hunt" thread, which while I understand is largely in jest, is dedicated to cheering for whomever Andy is playing for the sole reason they are playing Andy. Admitting he has a good chance of winning match x and/or against player x has no bearing on whether people here like him or not. As for the pro-Andy threads at MTF where the 10 or so active Andy fans on this board weren't 99% of those involved... well I haven't seen them yet. And save for what appears to be a pretty small handful, there are a lot of people on this board who can't even give Andy credit when logic would argue he deserves it (winning the USO, ending the year at #1, take your pick.)... a "luck" or "the USTA fixed it for him" or "so-and-so choked and that's why Andy won" is the more oft-taken path.

I wouldn't suggest using the "Is Andy Ready to Dominate" thread as a gague for anything because it was created by a person who inflamed, insulted, and antagonized many of the other Andy fans just as much as anyone else, both with what he said about Andy in that thread and personal attacks he chose to take at us on the Andy forum. A while back, we had a couple of very interesting, productive, and most importantly, mature threads about Andy where those who are not fans came to the Andy forum and we had a great discussion, until a couple of knuckleheads trolled over the thread with "Andy sucks, Roger rules!!!!!!!!!" and the like.

I guess, my point is that there are probably only a small handful of people at MTF who make it impossible to have real and interesting discussions with Andy because they come in and say such antagonizing things that I (and plenty of other Andy fans) end up getting defensive and it turns into a fight.

And of course, this is only my take. I'm not saying that this is absolutely the way it is here. it's just the experience that I've had in the past few months that I've been here.

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You know, bunk, I guess I'm too high on tennis and all the great professionals in the sport that I really missed the minority of Andy fans. I'm not that interested in Duck Hunts, Potato Peelers, penis sizes, fat Texans, safinsluts, or any of that other stuff. I really, really like tennis and great performances. So, any time I get to see someone excel at whatever it is they do, I'm too overjoyed at their level of expertise to get bogged down in the minutiae. It's too bad that Andy fans don't feel welcomed here. Maybe that will change...
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