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Question will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

i was watching Safin-Blake yesterday and the commentator brought up the business about how in the past Safin squandered his talent and didn't make adequate effort in some of his matches. and i remembered that Safin was actually once fined for lack of effort by the ATP.

shouldn't the same punishment be given to Denthead for his lack of effort against Duckboy?

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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

I didnt see the match (thankfully) but from what i hear and in the interviews it sounds like Dent really was making an effort, but just had a bad day.
I believe he would have made a better effort if he could, the crowd was really giving it to him and he was being humiliated on Centre Court. He said himself it was costing him a lot of pride to be out there.
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Dent was definitely trying!!! He didn't know Andy was gonna have the returning day of his life thusfar, plus he was probably still tired from his tough 5-setter considering he's not in the best fitness condition anyway.

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I heard that he was giving it his all, but just couldn't play to the level needed. Roddick just played too well.

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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

I agree, Dent indeed was trying, but things just didn't work out.

Though I gotta admit that there were moments in which he showed some "lack of effort", but were just a few points.

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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

No. Now I would be concerned if he handed Andy a triple-bagel....
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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

Dent couldn't handle Roddick's game.
Dent escaped with a bad performance in the
2nd round, but he wasn't going to give a close match later on.

Roddick was coming back from injury in Memphis, so don't pretend that he was playing well there vs. Dent.

Roddick did not give the best returning effort of his life.
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Roddick did not give the best returning effort of his life.
Ok then when has Andy returned better than he returned in that match? I haven't seen it.

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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

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shouldn't the same punishment be given to Denthead for his lack of effort against Duckboy?
No, because Dent was actually trying very hard to win but got outplayed by Andy.

A dejected Dent offered no excuses for his Melbourne meltdown.

"That was definitely, without question, the worst tennis experience of my entire life," he said.

"I wasn't tanking out there. I was busting my butt. I'll probably have to do some soul-searching. It was embarrassing. It was absolutely embarrassing."

"What kind of shape am I in now? Well round is a shape." said Roddick with a laugh. "I had a very detailed retirement plan, and I feel like I've met every aspect of it: a lot of golf, a lot of carbs, a lot of fried food, and some booze, occasionally — I've been completely committed ... The results have shown."


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Yes, please! That would be nice

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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

i asked bec i taped the match but didn't watch it since it featured the annoying Duck. but after i heard all the comments i decided to watch it and decide for myself. and you know what? i'm not taking anything away from Duckboy -- but Dent did not try. i agree that Chela had tired him out. but a good example of EFFORT was Canas vs Nalbandian. Canas was dog-tired after his TWO five-setters, especially the last one which was a five-hour match against Henboy. yet he gave Nalbandian his all and genuinely TRIED to win. that's what i mean by effort and Denthead did not demonstrate it.

or maybe he was induced into a semi-tank job. who knows? i like a good conspiracy as much as the next person...

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the thing for me is that I don't think Dent played very well against Chela either but he could get away with it. Against Andy, who was just playing on another level than Chela was, he couldn't get anything done and made it look like Dent was just flailing around

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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

Dent made an EFFORT to beat Chela. that's my point.

and the ATP is inconsistent in handing out penalties. that by the way is one part of the Potato's beef with them.

Q. When you've played as few matches as you have over the last two, three months, did you ever lack motivation to go out and practice?

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Re: will Denthead be fined for lack of effort??

well I thought he made an effort against Andy too.

He'd had a hip problem, his fitness isn't the best, so after the long match with Chela he was pooped. I just don't think he was out there not trying.

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