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Anyone Else Notice This?

in the new tms houston commercial, for next year of course, 7 players are shown in parts of it. granted agassi and roddick (neither won this year) are shown in the vast majority of the commercial. meanwhile, federer, who WON and will be defending champion, is not shown even hitting a ball. i wonder if this has to do with mac's tirade where he screamed at roger for his comments about the unlevel court... or is he still just sour that federer beat roddick... once... and agasii... twice?
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I didn't notice that! Knowing how much Mac oversees every aspect of the tournament, I wouldn't be surprised if he had some input.

then again it could be an "oversight"
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It'll just make Fed's win next year taste even sweeter.

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Lol Tangerine

It shows how biased the Americans are (ok now that is a biased statement too, but, whatever.. lol) when it comes to their own players. They don't really care about other, perhaps even better players, if they can fill an entire commercial with players à la Agassi and Roddick.

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Yes, i've noticed this. Figures that biased little shit hole, Mac, would put their American Players in for a majority of the time, & almost completly leave out the champion!!! Just win Again next year Fed, so Mac might just kill himself. Who Knows?? No guarentee that Roddick, or Agassi will be there next year. Imagine if not even 1 American player makes the Masters Cup next year!! He had better get used to other players besides Americans winning tournaments!!
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Amen!

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gosh if i would have known that this post of mine would have stirred up anti american sentiment, i wouldn't have shared it at all.
the funny thing about SOME non american posters is that they will denounce a country so quickly for something so small such as this when their own country does it! i bet my bottom dollar that a commercial in spain will predominantly highlight jcf, moya.... over roddick, agassi, federer... i mean it's about selling tickets, not respect.

the reason i brought this up is because it was aimed at 1 player.. and this player had an argument with the director and then dismissed his 2 favorite players... and he was left out of the commercial... and let's not forget that federer won the whole damn event... and the biggest check in tennis history (i could be wrong). seems like that should have made the ad.

be anti mac if you wish... but not anti american.... that is, if you want any respect yourself.
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I am 100% Anti-Mac, but not Anti-American. Hell, how can i be anti american when I AM American!
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No surprise here. Mac is a narrow-minded putz. You would think he could learn to respect reputed players who can only be accused of doing their jobs.

I kinda agree with you faboozadoo (? -long one there!) all countries will be biased in favor of their players and from what I hear from the Australian Open.. be charged with "doing" things to help their players along: linecalls, etc. Im often embarrassed at how south americans behave when the DC is held here... The one thing about Houston was that they let Mac get away with that disgraceful speech --you would think they (the ATP? or whatever) would have gotten a clue to the fact that that guy was not the best person to give the congratulatory speech.

I guess Im anti-Mac though those jerks at the US Open are almost just as bad.

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the funny thing about SOME non american posters is that they will denounce a country so quickly for something so small such as this when their own country does it!
I am not anti American citizens, but this is just a case in which some players are being hyped, clearly only because of their nationality. That is understandable, but that doesn't make it tolerable to me. And you are right, of course, by saying that Spain would do the same thing, and it is easy for me to say that The Netherlands won't, just since we, in Holland, don't have that many big stars. But even if that would be the case, it would still be a cheap way to act on the chauvinist sentiment of the Dutch viewers.

Moreover, I think that a commercial for the TMS Cup should not include that many (supposedly that many, since I haven't seen it myself) images of American players, especially since there is no guarantee that these players will indeed qualify. Therefore, it can be seen as misleading too.

Concluding, all I am saying is that the commercial is unfair and unacceptable. This is not based on the fact that the commercial primarily focuses on American players, although I do highly disagree with the American politics

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gosh if i would have known that this post of mine would have stirred up anti american sentiment, i wouldn't have shared it at all.
You should've been here during the US Open and TMC Houston when many of the non-Americans were having fits because they were convinced that there was some huge ATP conspiracy to get Agassi & Roddick in a final together.

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it's allllllllll about the money people. they don't care who's ranked where, who won what, they just wanna sell all their tickets and make money. pretty pathetic, but promoting Agassi and Roddick will do that. i'm unable to see the commercial because TSN doesn't show the masters cup commercials, but judging by what i've read here, i think i sumed it up quite well

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That would be an obvious conclusion to make out of my plea, Naldo Since I said that the commercial was only aiming at the cheap sentiment of the chauvinist American. If they aim well, tickets will be sold easily.

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You should've been here during the US Open and TMC Houston when many of the non-Americans were having fits because they were convinced that there was some huge ATP conspiracy to get Agassi & Roddick in a final together.
oh, i was here for that too, it was when i first started posting (i at one time used to just read threads...).
i only wanted to draw attention to this bc i thought it was just crazy... i watched the thing twice saying to myself-- "where's roger???" and then i remembered all the shit he went through with mac... america loves roger, anyway. all the tennis journalists write about his matches as if they're works of art, even when he has piles of ue's. so this was clearly a thing mac did.
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it's allllllllll about the money people. they don't care who's ranked where, who won what, they just wanna sell all their tickets and make money. pretty pathetic, but promoting Agassi and Roddick will do that. i'm unable to see the commercial because TSN doesn't show the masters cup commercials, but judging by what i've read here, i think i sumed it up quite well
the funny thing about this is roger is quite popular, and all the players are shown BUT him. roger sells tickets and gets attention.
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