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What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

As I should be revising, I was daydreaming and wondering about how tennis would be different if it operated with badminton scoring (particularly the idea that you can only win points on serve struck me as pretty important!).

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Re: What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

It would be strange.
There would be alot more emphasis on having a good return to win your serve back.
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Re: What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

I'm not sure where the emphasis would be, as a lot of tactics seem to be logical:

- Huge serve to rely on, and you are sorted.
- Great return to counteract serve and change things up
- High percentage serve to ensure you do not give cheap points away on it

Definitely one to consider! (if you have nothing better to do )

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Re: What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

Yeah, also you only have one pop at your serve
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Re: What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

The thing is, points in badminton are fairly short so points only on serve works out well. Tennis can have extended rallies so if tennis had that point system, it would quickly become a boring game.

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Re: What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

BTW does anybody know how where the scoring sysytem derived from.
15,30,40,deuce. I have always wondered.
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Re: What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

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BTW does anybody know how where the scoring sysytem derived from.
15,30,40,deuce. I have always wondered.
Yeah, actually why is it 15, 30 and 40 and not 10, 20 and 30 or some other combination?

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Yeah, actually why is it 15, 30 and 40 and not 10, 20 and 30 or some other combination?
I have lost sleep trying to work it out. (joke)
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BTW does anybody know how where the scoring sysytem derived from.
15,30,40,deuce. I have always wondered.
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Yeah, actually why is it 15, 30 and 40 and not 10, 20 and 30 or some other combination?
I remembered it having something to do with clocks but Wikipedia had the fuller answer:

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As simple as this scoring appears, the running score of each game is described in a manner peculiar to tennis: scores of zero to three points are described as "love" (or "zero"), "fifteen", "thirty", and "forty", respectively. The origin of this scoring comes from the (quarterly) stations of the clock, where "forty" was, presumably, easier to say than "forty-five." When stating the score, the server's score is stated first. If the server announces the score as "thirty-love," for example, it means that the server has won two points and the receiver none.
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I remembered it having something to do with clocks but Wikipedia had the fuller answer:
You could say that the tennis players have alot of time on their hands.
Why don't they say:
Quarter past - Love
Half past-love
Quarter to - love
Game - cock-a-doodle-doo
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Re: What if... tennis operated badminton-style scoring?

There are many theories about where such bizarre scoring system comes from, the one I'm familiar with say that it started in France, in the early middleages..At the beginning, when there were no special rules established, players disputed one match the whole day.."une journée"..until one of the players gave up [didn't make it physically].Every winning strike = one point, which made the final results to be counted in hundreds...It wasn't easy to remember/follow/articulate so they thought of a different, easier system. At first they decided to bring some game limits-started to dispute matches till 24, then 12 and eventually 6 jeux[games], 4 points each. And here we get to the core of it..How come 4 points-well, the story tells it comes from hazard. 1 game was worth 1 dinar, where 1 dinar = 60 sous[cents]. The most common piece of money was 1 dinar, so to make it easier King Louis X allowed to break 1 dinar into smaller parts, the easiest way was to divide it into halves and quarters...[one quarter-15 sous]..Winning a point equalled winning 15 sous..There's no explanation though why there's 40 instead of 45..some say it was only to make it easier to count..Hmm..Anyways, the money was payed after the whole match, not after every single game..To avoid misunderstandments players after every winning shot have been loudly announcing their score [ex: "moi, trente - toi, quarent" = "me,thirty-you,forty"], to simplify it the "me"&"you" disappeared..The source of words 'deuce' or 'love' were explained by the unability of british players to pronounce french words correctly ..When both players won 3 points, one of them had to win extra 2 in a row to prevail, so such situation was called "(a) deux"[till two] ("deux" for brits sounded like "deuce" and that's how it stayed..) "Love" came from the french word "oeuf"=egg..guess,no comments needed in here...This is only one of many stories explaining tennis scoring system, so I wouldn't treat it seriously, really...
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As I should be revising, I was daydreaming and wondering about how tennis would be different if it operated with badminton scoring (particularly the idea that you can only win points on serve struck me as pretty important!).

What do you think?
badminton has already adopted the rally point system.
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