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Hewitt call electronic line-calling "mickey mouse"

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Hewitt resists move to TV eye
LEO SCHLINK
19jun06

LLEYTON Hewitt has refused to join the stampede calling for the immediate installation of electronic line-calling at all tournaments after a controversial Queen's Club victory.

Hewitt's Stella Artois Championships semi-final success over Tim Henman was lost in a tumult over a series of questionable calls, none as decisive as the one which cost Henman his serve in the third set.

Leading 2-1 with a break, Henman drilled a forehand and the ball appeared to catch the line, only to be called out and costing him the game.

Television replays showed the ball had caught the line.

Incensed, Henman immediately complained and demanded tournament supervisor Thomas Karlberg come to centre court.

After complaining bitterly, Henman failed to gather his composure and lost the remaining four games.

He described the officiating under Italian Manuel Messina as "appalling", agreeing it was the worst of his long career.

Predictably, he is in favour of the use of Hawkeye, a video replay system now used mostly for television, at all events.

"When you're in a match like that where there's so many mistakes, it's obviously going to clear up the vast majority of them," he said.

"I'm in favour of it."

Used for the first time at ATP and WTA level in Miami in March after experimental use at the Hopman Cup exhibition in Perth, Hawkeye allows players to challenge a limited number of calls.

It will be used for the first time at a Grand Slam during the U.S. Open from August 28 and, provided there are no problems, at January's Australian Open.

But Hewitt described the system as "Mickey Mouse".

"I've been a bit sceptical," he said. "I know (Roger) Federer and a few of the guys weren't the biggest fans right off.

"From just my experience in Miami, it felt a little bit Mickey Mouse a couple of times.

"I think a lot of players sort of exploit it at different times.

"If it's going to bring the crowds and viewing into it more, then that's a positive.

"But I don't think we should lose what we've got in the game and not try and turn it into a sideshow too much."

Hewitt's 6-3, 3-6, 6-3 victory earned the Australian a fourth Queen's final and will guarantee a decent rankings boost ahead of Wimbledon.

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boo, shut up dude, it's 21st century and technology rules . People want to see where the ball landed
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oh, Lleyton. It's no more mickey mouse than raging about a line call and breaking rackets and getting penalties for back chat, etc. If anything, it's going to take a lot of the "sideshow" out of tennis.

Where would McEnroe have been with Hawkeye??? All of those tantrums, the mostrous delays of geme, the replayed remarks, his very own Stockholm syndrome..... They would just have faded away.....

Oh well, I'm wrong. He would have had fits about the technology.
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Hewitt is right. You don't need to "americanize" every sport out there with technology. Why take off the speed of this sport like they do in football or hockey?

This is what I like about tennis and soccer. There are no breaks.
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oh, Lleyton. It's no more mickey mouse than raging about a line call and breaking rackets and getting penalties for back chat, etc. If anything, it's going to take a lot of the "sideshow" out of tennis.

Where would McEnroe have been with Hawkeye??? All of those tantrums, the mostrous delays of geme, the replayed remarks, his very own Stockholm syndrome..... They would just have faded away.....

Oh well, I'm wrong. He would have had fits about the technology.
Do you remember when Cyclops was introduced? Most of the players hated it! Ilie Nastase once famously jumped up and down on the Cyclops box to protest a beep he disagreed with, and players used to ask the chair to turn it off and use a line judge instead.

My primary objection with Hawkeye is that it will slow the game down ("let's go to the replay") and increase the amount of time the ball is not in play. And frankly, I think most fans like the encounters between players and the chair over bad calls. For most fans, it's about the only time they get to see the player show some emotion and hear their voices.



C'mon, Lleyton!

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"From just my experience in Miami, it felt a little bit Mickey Mouse a couple of times."

Sounds like Lleyton is INDEED BACK!!!

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Hewitt is right. You don't need to "americanize" every sport out there with technology.
Hm, maybe we should keep all our technlogy to ourselves then, if no one else wants it!
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There are no breaks.
Huh? What about on clay when it takes about 10 times longer for the ump to get out of his chair to check a mark than it would for the replay, which takes about 5 seconds. During clay season I found that much more of an annoyance than waiting for the replay results in Miami.

Anyway, Lleyton's fully entitled to his opinion, I just disagree. I think it needs to be in the game. I just think that after they did the testing in Miami and saw how quick it was, how well it worked, that the challenge system probably should go. Every call needs to be right and if it became an integrated part of the game like that, and not one moreso for the crowd involvement, maye Lleyton wouldn't still think of it as "mickey mouse"?

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Hewitt is right. You don't need to "americanize" every sport out there with technology. Why take off the speed of this sport like they do in football or hockey?

This is what I like about tennis and soccer. There are no breaks.
It takes no time at all. You also have to consider all the time that it takes aruguing with the umpire due to bad calls. With hawk-eye everyone knows where they stand.
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Hm, maybe we should keep all our technlogy to ourselves then, if no one else wants it!Huh? What about on clay when it takes about 10 times longer for the ump to get out of his chair to check a mark than it would for the replay, which takes about 5 seconds. During clay season I found that much more of an annoyance than waiting for the replay results in Miami.

Anyway, Lleyton's fully entitled to his opinion, I just disagree. I think it needs to be in the game. I just think that after they did the testing in Miami and saw how quick it was, how well it worked, that the challenge system probably should go. Every call needs to be right and if it became an integrated part of the game like that, and not one moreso for the crowd involvement, maye Lleyton wouldn't still think of it as "mickey mouse"?
I think that may be the reason that he feels that way. If they took out this idiotic challenge system, I am pretty sure more players will warm up to it.

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I think that may be the reason that he feels that way. If they took out this idiotic challenge system, I am pretty sure more players will warm up to it.
yeah I agree. I mean they gave it a try. and it worked, and then again I don't recall any time where any player was out of challenges near the end of a tight set/match or anything. Even a challenge system but where the ump could explicitly reserve the right to review any call he wants (instead of just when unsighted like now), would help.

I wonder what Lleyton would have said, though, if he'd been the one who kept getting the bad calls in this match and found out later that Hawkeye proved him righ basically every time. If he'd been broken b/c of a bad call, etc., would he still have thought it was a joke? I bet he would've wanted it out there

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For those players who don't like this system i would challenge them to make a competition against the hawkeye machine and we would see if their human eye is more reliable than the machine .

They would be ridiculed by the machine.
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yeah I agree. I mean they gave it a try. and it worked, and then again I don't recall any time where any player was out of challenges near the end of a tight set/match or anything. Even a challenge system but where the ump could explicitly reserve the right to review any call he wants (instead of just when unsighted like now), would help.

I wonder what Lleyton would have said, though, if he'd been the one who kept getting the bad calls in this match and found out later that Hawkeye proved him righ basically every time. If he'd been broken b/c of a bad call, etc., would he still have thought it was a joke? I bet he would've wanted it out there
Well yeah, that is why we have Henman calling for Shotspot and Hewitt calling it Mickey Mouse. If Hewitt had been at the receiving end of these bad calls, then we may have seen him change his tune. In general though, Shotspot is a good thing so I hope it gets incorporated for every disputed line call instead of making it selective.

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Go fuck yourself, Hewitt.
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It takes no time at all. You also have to consider all the time that it takes aruguing with the umpire due to bad calls. With hawk-eye everyone knows where they stand.
Amen!

P.S. I'll never get why people act like this challenge system wastes time. Sure goes a hell of a lot faster than the "challenge system" set up on clay.
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