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How do you measure talent?

What is talent to you? Why do you consider safin more talented than the rest? Why does davydenko have the least talent out of the top 10?

Let's see; for me it would have to be pure ballstriking ability; how hard can the guy hit the ball and how clean does it come off his racket.

I'm guessing this, plus if the guy can hit miraculous winners, determines talent. But what about the hewitts and the davydenkos who are super consistent. Are they not considered to be talented or what? I don't really see the comparison, even though i admit to making it myself sometimes. Just because a guy doesn't hit flashy shots, is he not talented? Enlighten me..
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For me, I'll say the more majors a guy win, the more talented he is. I'll consider Federal more talented than Safin, Samprus more talented than Aggasi, not the reverse.
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Re: How do you measure talent?

Nikolay may not have the powerful shots of Safin, but his talent lies in his fighting ability. That's talent, too, imo.


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Re: How do you measure talent?

i would say the ability to place a 135mph serve where u want it, is talent. so ljubicic is quite talented


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Making shots that are high percentage plays for the given player but very low percentage plays for other players.

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For me I think talent is how well you can play. If everyone played at top form all the time and never got injured then the rankings would be an order of talent. Of course, some talented guys often play badly which is why life isn't like this.

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Re: How do you measure talent?

Because the technical side of tennis is so difficult to master; spotting a talent is as easy as pie.
Take a player who can rally almost carelessly, and have a technically-correct response to everything thrown at him.
Who will hit net-cord winners from any angle on the court, and make it look intentional.
Soft, versatile wrists. And the ability to percieve where the next ball will be projected.
Talents: Fed, Nalb, Coria
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Re: How do you measure talent?

For me it's mostly technical. A talented player is a player who is able to make various shots, the most talented of all would be able to make any shots, at any time he 'd want to. Then come the ability to anticipate the game. Foresee what your oponent is gonna play obviously give you more chance to make the shot that will come upon him.
So for me, talent is measured by the spectrum of shots a player can make and the sense of the game.
And I would add that IMO, grass is the surface where the sense of the game shows up the more, just because its speed needs the player to be more instincive.

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Re: How do you measure talent?

Talent = 3.14 * winners^2.5/(unforced errors) * log(aces+1)/(body height in m -1)


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Talent player still wins with average power, poor fitness and little flexibility
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Talent = 3.14 * winners^2.5/(unforced errors) * log(aces+1)/(body height in m -1)
Tell me the units of this measure It would be something like UE-1*Aces*Meters bit weird in my opinion....JK

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Re: How do you measure talent?

Talent = Natural aptitude for something.

If you talk about a game/sport then , TALENT has to mean ability to do/play it ,
AESTHETICALLY , NATURALLY , & WITH VARIETY ( multidimensional ).
When people/connosieurs praise player 'A' as talented , it is for these qualities.
(Federer is a clear example of talent - fluid , unhurried movement , wrist-work etc.Also J Mcnroe)

BUT there are other TYPES OF TALENT also - say - PHYSICAL talent
( Safin/Berdych/Nadal) , MENTAL (strategy/brainwise) talent ,
COMPETETIVE/TEMPERAMENT (big match grit ) talent (Connors/Nadal)
etc .

Since sport involves( & rewards) all these facets , there is no way u can measure
it objectively / absolutely .

Tennis is an outdoor , physical sport & in my dictionary TALENT would mean TALENT of the 1 st kind - that is ability to play it ......

This is PRIMARY requirement , rest come later . Also is the most apparent way of determining.

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Re: How do you measure talent?

according to certain people in mtf... the bigger the ass means they got more talent

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