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Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

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Excerpt from a Guardian Unlimiited article:

Goran on Andy Murray

Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than the world number two, Rafael Nadal, and says he could help the coachless young Scot prepare for this year's Wimbledon.

Ivanisevic says he does not want the post Murray has been seeking to fill since he sacked his coach, Mark Petchey, last April. 'I wouldn't coach anybody,' says Ivanisevic, 'but if he asked me to help him, why not? To practise with him, to hit with him, to pass on my experience... I know something about playing tennis on grass.'

Ivanisevic has seen Murray play many times. He is impressed. 'I like the way he plays, I like his mentality.' He thinks it is surprising, though, that Murray has now gone more than two months without a coach, during which time he has won only two matches in six tournaments, his most recent first-round exit being at the Stella Artois tournament in London last week.

Having a coach in the build-up to Wimbledon is particularly important, Ivanisevic thinks. 'I'm surprised, very surprised that he hasn't taken anybody for these next three weeks. It's very hard to find a good coach, but there are a lot of good ex-players who could help him on grass.

'He's young and whoever he gets eventually to coach him must be able to tell him about tennis and also about life, how to behave, how to do a lot of things,' says Ivanisevic, who thinks criticism of the 19-year-old Murray's sometimes surly behaviour and level of fitness, blamed for his physical problems, is unreasonable.

'It's easy to criticise,' says Ivanisevic. 'In Britain, as soon as you do something good and then start to play a little better they give you shit. He's young and is going to have ups and downs. When someone's not playing too well you can find a hundred mistakes, but when he's playing good he's perfect. It's very easy to find mistakes.'

The idea that Nadal, 20, who retained the French Open title last Sunday, has set an example to other emerging players about the amount of training they should put in - the Spaniard is renowned for working extremely hard away from competition - is not one to which Ivanisevic subscribes.

He says: 'Nadal is Nadal; Murray has a different game. Murray's more talented, he has a better serve, he's different. Maybe someone needs one hour to do something that Nadal needs five hours to do. Not everyone practises the same. They have completely different games.

'So I think Murray should find a good coach who could teach him how to play - when to come in, when to stay back. He has a lot of things to improve, but I like him, I like the way he plays. And it's good that you have a new player coming after Tim. You don't have to wait another 50 years as you did for Tim.'
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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

More Nadal bashing. Hahaha.
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Well, we all know Goran is a heavy vodka drinker

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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

Better serve ???? I don't think so. Perhaps Goran meant to say that Andy's game is more "layered" than Nadals. English is not his first language so I think he can be forgiven for such an outrageous remark straight after Nadal's record setting exploits at the French no less ...
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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

Goran obviously said that to please the british media

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Perhaps he's hoping for another wild card for Wimbledon He could still do some damage, no ?
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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

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Goran obviously said that to please the british media
He says Ancic is more talented as well so maybe he just doesn't think much of Nadal for whatever reason. Ever since Fed started it, it seems popular to bash Nadal even when he just did his job and handled success marvelously
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He says Ancic is more talented as well so maybe he just doesn't think much of Nadal for whatever reason. Ever since Fed started it, it seems popular to bash Nadal even when he just did his job and handled success marvelously
What did Fed start ?
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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

Well, he's entitled to give his own opinion
Goran was great fun to see, I guess he still wants to be funny in his after tennis life
But he's dealing OK with the fact that Rafa at 20 has already achieved more than him in his career

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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

Let's see - what else can we hold Roger responsible for?

Didn't he assassinate Archduke Franz Ferdinand and start World War I?

Honestly - people seem to think that everyone else are sheep, just waiting for Roger to express an opinion and then they jump obediently into line.
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More Nadal bashing. Hahaha.
how is goran bashing nadal?
i just don´t get mindset of you people
goran said murray has more talent

is he saying murray is the better player?
no

is he saying murray will be a better player?
no

is he saying that nadal is bad?
no

there is so much malice on this forum that it´s fucking unbelievable sometimes
the fact that murray has more talent dosen´t mean anything by itself
and murray i thnk has more talent than nadal
or how allez put it, more layered game
it´s just that nadal in mentally out there
he is the best an he´s so young
and he´s working on his game, and he´s the real deal

i think goran is trying to say how good murray can be, and you are all focusing on one segment without the real context
after all goran had much more talent than sampras and agaasi so what
count the slams, it dosen´t mean a thing
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Goran obviously said that to please the british media
lol
in the same article he basically said that british media are full of shit
your logic is second to none
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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

what goran says is true there are alot of players (the younger generation) that are much more talented than nadal like berdych and djokovic
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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

joker-vich and bird-man u kiddin>???

if they were so 'talented' then you would think they would be going deeper in majors. ...but they're not..nadal is a rare talent
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Re: Goran Ivanisevic believes Andy Murray is a more talented player than Rafael

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joker-vich and bird-man u kiddin>???

if they were so 'talented' then you would think they would be going deeper in majors. ...but they're not..nadal is a rare talent
yes they would if only talent played a role
but it dosen´t
tennis is more than that
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