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How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

Is this man the worst ever No.4 in Men’s Tennis? I believe he is, because I don’t ever see him winning a Grand Slam and he is just so extremely average. He is 27 years old, and has only ever reached the second week of a Slam on two occasions in his career. His backhand isn’t bad, his serve can occasionally be alright, but make no mistake; he is pathetic and will never achieve anything substantial in his career. It’s a disgrace that this man is effectively the 4th best player on the tour due to the rankings, when there countless players that are superior.
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Thanks for bringing some diversity to the board.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

GWH, what's the translation of Johansson's quote in your signature?
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GWH, what's the translation of Johansson's quote in your signature?
It will cost you $$$$$ for me to give out this info.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Luckily I've got a couple of Swedes on MSN.
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Luckily I've got a couple of Swedes on MSN.
It basically says there will never be another generation like this.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Re: How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

Davydenko is another conundrum in the Top Ten. An unbelievable player, but no Grand Slam yet. Still he seems immovable in his spot right now.
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Davydenko is another conundrum in the Top Ten. An unbelievable player, but no Grand Slam yet. Still he seems immovable in his spot right now.
Daveydenko is another one of these good players, but not quite up to the standard of winning a GS. He doesn’t have any real strengths other than his ability to return everything.
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Re: How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

Uh... there's only four majors in a year. There are a lot of people in the top ten that never hold up one of those trophies. The #8 guy ain't going to be winning a whole lot of Grand Slam events.

On Ljubicic, he strikes me as this year's Jiri Novak. Unassuming, steady, sneaks up on you and is playing at the TMC at the end of the year. I don't see him as a long-term presence in the Top 5.
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Re: How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

didnt he say he feels like a no.2 player, or something like that?

apart from his serve, he has nothing special....
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Re: How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

This will sound dumb, but... why should winning a Grand Slam be the be all and end all?
It would be nice, but I'd prefer to be consistent and improve my game, picking up titles where I can. Then again, I don't play tennis because I loathe it and am so poor at it. But, it doesn't make me any less qualified than the other mtf experts

I am neutral on Ljubicic. I can think of other crap #4s. Unless doubles slams count, how bad was Jonas Bjorkman! Oh man!!!

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I think I'd rather win a slam, Kristen


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Re: How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

In hindsight... yes I think you're right. For me personally, if I could get that stupid ball into that microscopic square (judging by my talent, it IS that small) when I serve.

Yeah, I think Thomas Johansson is pretty chuffed to have a slam under his belt

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Re: How Bad is Ivan Ljubicic?

I think Ljubicic is a great player. You don't become number 4 out of the blue. He has won a lot of tournaments lately or reaching finals. That means that you are a good player and deserve to be up there at the top. Great serve, beautiful backhand (not as good as Federer, but still...)The GS may be a mental thing for him, but maybe he can change that at Wimbledon. I hope so for him, because besides being a good player, he is a nice person (although that is what I think)
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Go Ljubo!!!!
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