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Brad Gilbert possibly going to coach Andy (not roddick)

American Brad Gilbert could become Andy Murray's new coach after holding talks with the British number two and the Lawn Tennis Association (LTA).
Gilbert, who used to coach Andre Agassi and Andy Roddick, met Murray's agent Patricio Apey and LTA boss Roger Draper in a Paris hotel on Wednesday morning.

Murray, 19, needs a new coach after parting with Mark Petchey in April.

The LTA also needs someone to head its performance programme after sacking David Felgate last month.

The three-way meeting has fuelled speculation that a possible joint arrangement, for the benefit of both the LTA and Murray, has been discussed.

Murray ideally needs a full-time advisor, but the chance of getting help from Gilbert, one of the most successful and respected coaches on the tour, would be appealing.

After his successful partnership with Agassi, Gilbert linked up with Roddick in June 2003 and coached him to the US Open title and the world number one ranking.

Likewise, the LTA is looking to build a team of coaches to take British tennis forward.


The one stumbling block could be money.

Gilbert was one of the highest paid coaches in the world and now has a lucrative contract with the TV network ESPN.

Draper has said he is willing to pay what it takes to get the best coaches in the world, but Murray may not be able to afford the salary required to tempt Gilbert back on the tour full-time.

After Wimbledon, the LTA will review the funding of all its leading players, including Murray, and Draper might decide to invest heavily in Britain's one world-class prospect for the long-term benefit of British tennis.

A joint arrangement would spread the cost, although there is no suggestion that an offer has been made at this stage.

The LTA says Gilbert is one of many figures in world tennis to have met Draper as the new chief executive searches for the right structure to take the sport forward.
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It says that one stumbling block could be money.
Does anyone have some idea about what cut off the player's cheques (or is it a lumpsum) the coach receives? Any rough estimate?
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Brad gets in the 6 figures I'm pretty sure. At least $100,000/yr, more I'd imagine. Maybe even a cut of a player's winnings too.

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Brad gets in the 6 figures I'm pretty sure. At least $100,000/yr, more I'd imagine. Maybe even a cut of a player's winnings too.
Regardless of the player's earnings? (I know that the players he coached brought a lot of $ home but is this how it typically works? A fixed sum?)
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I hope he does cos it's be great for Andy, give him a real boost with his fitness and mental strategy.

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Murray really needs more to job in his fitness and then he could become a better player I hope Brad will help him in both aspects.

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It seems not characteristic of Brad to take a young, developing player like Murray. Both the players he coached before were already established.

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Regardless of the player's earnings? (I know that the players he coached brought a lot of $ home but is this how it typically works? A fixed sum?)
I haven't seen his contracts obviously, but my guess is it's a combination of both. A base fee, with an option to get a % of the winnings.

Brad is not a fitness guy. Andre had Gil, and Andy's fitness was pretty embarrassing under Brad - he got professional about it as soon as he got Dean and said Dean was able to motivate him to train more professionally, suggesting Brad was not. For Fitness, IMO, Murray needs to hire a trainer.

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."...Brad Gilbert writing for The Times Online: "I know my name has been linked with coaching [Andy Murray], but I feel very loyal to ESPN, the American cable television company, and although they know I will be back coaching some time in the future, I am very happy doing what I am doing."

Guess they didn't agree on the $$$$$ figure....
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The Murray-Gilbert relationship wouldn't last. Gilbert is too much of a fast-talker and uses too many American sports references when trying to make a point. Dealing with such a bombastic alien for two weeks would put the fragile Murray in the mental hospital.

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The money would definetly prove a decisive factor when a player like Murray attempts to link up with such a high profile figure such as Brad Gilbert. As Deb said he would require a base 6 figure sum and then on top of that travel/accomodation expenses and 10% of earnings is pretty standard. This could result in around the $250,000 > $300,000 mark per year...kind of hefty, but if you want the best....

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Brad is not a fitness guy. Andre had Gil, and Andy's fitness was pretty embarrassing under Brad - he got professional about it as soon as he got Dean and said Dean was able to motivate him to train more professionally, suggesting Brad was not.
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