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Federer easy draw, reason why favourite for title

All the players Federer seem to face are either battle weary(Ancic, Davy/Nalby,Nadal) or no match for him(Berdych) hence he will win this years FO. Federer has hardly spent a marathon time on court and is in cruise control. It is like he is picking up on the scrappers(ancic) and these guys after long-ass marathons are spent have little chance of beating Fed.


Thats a pity in a long GS event, you always have 'fresher' people facing people who have gone through long 5 setters, which is not really an even-match up and arguably not fair.

But It is Federer who has the last laugh as his game does not depend on baseline attrition; rather he likes to finish off points. He is most clever- he is conserving energy. Why can't Nadal attack more? I think Nadal will be gone by the final.

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When i meant Nadal 'gone' by final i mean not enough left in the tank to beat Federer in the final. I still think he will make the final no worries

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Federer does NOT have the easier draw. I highly doubt that there is another player who could make Berdych look like a challenger. Massu is tough. On paper, he could've faced Ancic/Robredo/Acasuso in the QF and will face either Nalbandian or Davydenko in the SF. What does Nadal face? PHM was not supposed to be a 5 hour battle although the talented Frenchman always had the talent to push Nadal. Hewitt has not played much on clay and it is his worse surface. Nole or Monfils are youngsters and probably not ready for the moment, although I think Djokovic might be tough for anyone. Then there is the SF. There is no Nalbandian or Davydenko there waiting.
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This thread reminded me of Alexito and his Federer's lucky draw theory.

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All the players Federer seem to face are either battle weary(Ancic, Davy/Nalby,Nadal) or no match for him(Berdych) hence he will win this years FO. Federer has hardly spent a marathon time on court and is in cruise control. It is like he is picking up on the scrappers(ancic) and these guys after long-ass marathons are spent have little chance of beating Fed.

Thats a pity in a long GS event, you always have 'fresher' people facing people who have gone through long 5 setters, which is not really an even-match up and arguably not fair.

But It is Federer who has the last laugh as his game does not depend on baseline attrition; rather he likes to finish off points. He is most clever- he is conserving energy. Why can't Nadal attack more? I think Nadal will be gone by the final.


It's not unfair to Roger if other players spend more time on court. Besides Berdych spent less time on court and was arguably fresher than Roger. Again it's not Roger's fault if Berdych didn't bring his 'A' game and Roger won quite comfortably. I don't think many Fed fans were predicting such an easy win today. I think it's quite laughable you think Nadal won't be in the final because of the way he plays. He's probably one of the most match tough and fit players on the tour. I think Hewitt is the only one left that could keep him out on court 4 or 5 sets. I don't think you have to worry about your precious Nadal not making the final.

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Amazing..............Simply Amazing


I was wondering how long it would take someone to call Nadal's draw "hard" because he couldn't close out PHM in 3 sets yesterday. Roger faced Massu who was quite a challenge and Berdych who has more game than PHM. Roger will face Ancic, who is having a great clay season and has a day to recover......Nadal faces Hewitt who is on a downward slide. No one with a straight face can say he or she expects Hewitt to even win a set off Nadal. Then, while Roger, if successful against Ancic, will meet Nalbandian or Davydenko in the semifinals, no player worth two cents on clay awaits Nadal in the semifinals..............so, please, be quiet.



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Federer does NOT have the easier draw. I highly doubt that there is another player who could make Berdych look like a challenger. Massu is tough. On paper, he could've faced Ancic/Robredo/Acasuso in the QF and will face either Nalbandian or Davydenko in the SF. What does Nadal face? PHM was not supposed to be a 5 hour battle although the talented Frenchman always had the talent to push Nadal. Hewitt has not played much on clay and it is his worse surface. Nole or Monfils are youngsters and probably not ready for the moment, although I think Djokovic might be tough for anyone. Then there is the SF. There is no Nalbandian or Davydenko there waiting.
Nadal beat up Monfils quite easily in Rome so I can't see him being a challenge at all. He'll probably get Ljubicic in the SF based on who's left in that quarter and clay certainly isn't his best surface. Of course the gods up there made sure all of Roger's later opponents spent a lot of time on court so they wouldn't be fresh when they met him.

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This thread reminded me of Alexito and his Federer's lucky draw theory.
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On paper Rafa has the easier draw - it's down to him how tough he makes than on himself, as is true of Feds.
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buuuuuuuuuuuuu, always easy draw federer, i can make rg final too if i only have to face nalbandian or davydenko on clay over five sets in sf....

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I know that Berdych is very talented but how much of his potential has he shown this season? I mean, on paper, this could have been a tough match but is anybody really surprised that this was a straight sets defeat?
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The point is, NEITHER guy has a hard draw. Why? Because they are so much fucking better than everyone else, that the opponents don't matter. That's not to say Fed and Nadal are unbeatable, but rather, if one of them loses before the final, it will be because they had an off day. That means that a qualifier and Nalbandian are almost equal in terms of difficulty (as demonstrated by PHM vs Berdych vs. that guy Fed had in his first round, etc)
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buuuuuuuuuuuuu, always easy draw federer, i can make rg final too if i only have to face nalbandian or davydenko on clay over five sets in sf....

Sjeng, "buuuu" was good, but the rest makes too much sense.

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I know that Berdych is very talented but how much of his potential has he shown this season? I mean, on paper, this could have been a tough match but is anybody really surprised that this was a straight sets defeat?
Well, he has beaten three Top 20 players. I was reading somewhere, either here or on a professional website, that he didn't stand much of a chance against Federer since he'd only beaten three Top 20 players this year, Hewitt, Nalbandian and Kiefer, and I thought: you know, a lot of players would like to say they only beat a mere three opponents in the Top 20.

With the win over Nalbandian in Dusseldorf I believe he is the only player to have victories over all the current Top 4 in the last couple of years.

As for the match today, well no, I wasn't tremendously surprised. I thought it could be a good contest, but I found it laughable when someone predicted that Berdych could be Federer's marathon 4-hour test - I mean, look at the way that the two men play, they're not going to be out there grinding each other into the dust for rally after rally. The weather was hot today, which gave him more of a chance to penetrate off the ground, but to be honest best of five on clay is the worst possible circumstances for Berdych to face Federer, given that he hits flat with a low margin for error. I would imagine best of three indoors would be the ideal setting for him, given his win in Paris last year, although Federer is obviously no indoor slouch either.

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I expect Hewitt too fight tomorrow, he has nothing too lose.This is a great result for him.Nadal fans never seem to amazed, Roger's draw is far more dangerous.
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