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Women gaining on the men?

Does the women's game have more depth than the men's?

Obviously in the men's we have people ranked anywhere in the top 100 that can beat the highest ranked players. However, in terms of winning major tournaments, the men's is now easier to predict than the women's.

The WTA does not have dominant forces such as Nadal and Federer. Instead they have a group of players that are all about the same level...

Mauresmo, Henin-Hardenne, Petrova, Clijsters, Davenport, Kuznetsova, Sharapova etc.

The WTA also seems to have as many young talented players as we have on the men's side. Anyway, what do you think?

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Re: Women gaining on the men?

In terms of unpredictability, yes.

In terms of quality, a resounding NO!
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Re: Women gaining on the men?

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In terms of unpredictability, yes.

In terms of quality, a resounding NO!
Have to agree with the gee-man here. Still doesn't change my views on pay though.

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Re: Women gaining on the men?

i used to follow womens tennis more than the mens game but now i think it is really poor.
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i used to follow womens tennis more than the mens game but now i think it is really poor.
Really? I would've thought the womens game is better now than it was a few years ago when the Williams' were killing everyone. I'm kind of disappointed the mens game is turning into that at the moment.
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Re: Women gaining on the men?

In the top 50 on each side I would make a point to watch the following:

Women:
Maureasmo, Petrova, Clijsters, Sharapova, Henin-Hardenne, Dementieva, Schnyder, Kuznetsova, Myskina, WIlliams, Hingis, Groenefeld, Vaidisova, Safina, Hantuchova, Ivanovic, Kirilenko, Golovin, Peer, Li, Mirza, Krajicek

Total women watched = 22

Men: might be easier to say who I wouldn't make a point of watching.
Ginepri, Hrbaty, Massu, Chela, Rusedski, Serra, Soderling

Total men watched = 43

Men win by 43 to 22!!

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the womens game went true a golden moment in 96 with hingis making her mark and from then onwards but now i couldnt be bothered watching a womens game at all,some of them just dont have enough fight in them and plus the quality isnt there.
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Funny you should post this I was just thinking man the quality of women's tennis at the French Open sucks. They just hit and hope, grip it and rip it no constructing of points whatsoever. Used to watch the women's game more. I'm a big Sharapova fan and didn't enjoy watching her at all today. And I usually enjoy just watching her play regardless of how the match goes. Men's tennis is much better and exciting than women's right now and that is not going to change EVER. Just watch the Nadal , Hewitt match tomorrow... I think that could be the match of the tournament.
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Funny you should post this I was just thinking man the quality of women's tennis at the French Open sucks. They just hit and hope, grip it and rip it no constructing of points whatsoever. Used to watch the women's game more. I'm a big Sharapova fan and didn't enjoy watching her at all today. And I usually enjoy just watching her play regardless of how the match goes. Men's tennis is much better and exciting than women's right now and that is not going to change EVER. Just watch the Nadal , Hewitt match tomorrow... I think that could be the match of the tournament.
Lol. That will be too one-sided.

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Re: Women gaining on the men?

Women playing tennis, especially on clay, are a joke.

The only thing they can do is moonballing and waiting for the UE of the opponent...

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Women playing tennis, especially on clay, are a joke.

The only thing they can do is moonballing and waiting for the UE of the opponent...
Did you watch Vaidisova and Henin-Hardenne yesterday?

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Re: Women gaining on the men?

From a female perspective... i have never been into womens tennis, but i have been watching some matches lately and i'm very impressed with the power the young girls have. Girls who are only 16/17/18 are matching it with the best and hitting winners i think most non-sexist men would be impressed by.

The WTA is improving and the quality of competitors are getting better and stronger... there's still a few years yet until the quality is as consistantly good as the mens, but it will happen.
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Re: Women gaining on the men?

That's what women's tennis is UE AFTER UE.
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Re: Women gaining on the men?

Women have the depth but the quality is often lacking. For every good match, say, Sharapova and Safina today, there's an atrocious one, like Henin-Hardenne vs Myskina today. That was embarrassing - the 2004 champion was 6-1 5-0 down to the 2005 champion. Then the 2005 champion went off the boil herself and allowed the 2004 champion 4 games before finally serving it out. It was barely entertaining because it was all decided by one player or the other playing poorly. I can't think of a comparable instance on the men's side at that sort of level.

I like the women's game and like the unpredictability but the match quality all this year has barely lived up to the promise considering how many good players are there right now. I can think of three total classic men's matches from the recent past in the men's game, this year. With the women I'm really scratching my head.
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watching hingis play early on in her career was a joy,she was great to watch,then gradually the williams domination was over-bearing and a flood of eastern block players came with a very one-dimensional game of hitting the ball as hard as they could. mens tennis is much better.
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