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20 second rule

Page 181 of 234 ATP Rulebook ( http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T...P_Rulebook.pdf )

Rule 29. Continuous play

a) Between points, a maximum of twenty (20) seconds is allowed.
c) No extra time shall be given to allow a player to recover condition.

Came to mind when watching Nadal - Mathieu match. Exlude crowd delays that occure from time to time. There are still plenty of points that take 40+ seconds to start. In worst case Nadal stalled for over 60 seconds, after very long rally.

Should this rule be removed or being taken more seriously
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Page 181 of 234 ATP Rulebook ( http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/T...P_Rulebook.pdf )

Rule 29. Continuous play

a) Between points, a maximum of twenty (20) seconds is allowed.
c) No extra time shall be given to allow a player to recover condition.

Came to mind when watching Nadal - Mathieu match. Exlude crowd delays that occure from time to time. There are still plenty of points that take 40+ seconds to start. In worst case Nadal stalled for over 60 seconds, after very long rally.

Should this rule be removed or being taken more seriously
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This is what occurs to you when watching a great match like this one?
Yep I don´t want matches to last 5 hours, when they should be only 4.
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I wouldn't mind a match lasting 5 hours even if it should last 4 hours - if it does end up lasting 4 it's because one of them collapsed for lack of air.

The guys are killing each other with amazing rallies and you expect them to be perfectly ready for the next point. Give 'em a break, please.
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It's up to the umpire to interpret the rules and make allowances. When players are fighting their hearts out, they give them extra time.


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The guys are killing each other with amazing rallies and you expect them to be perfectly ready for the next point. Give 'em a break, please.
If I had dominated a rally by running opponent from left to right to center and back. I wouldn´t give him any extra seconds to recover. I would go. Play on ! Are you playing or not ? Hey ref, are you allowing this ?

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If I had dominated a rally by running opponent from left to right to center and back. I wouldn´t give him any extra seconds to recover. I would go. Play on ! Are you playing or not ? Hey ref, are you allowing this ?

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They're both running like madmen, no one 'wins' with that really.

If giving the players 20 more seconds to recover will give me the hell of a match PHM and Nadal are giving right now, I won't complain, honestly.
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I am getting very sick and tired of Nadal asking for his towel after almost every point when his opponent is waiting to resume. Surely it cannot be allowed time after time…
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What certainly is not according to the rules, is Nadal constant gamensmanship. He changes racquets, asks for towel, postpones the serve of his opponent... He is irritating! Shame!
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What certainly is not according to the rules, is Nadal constant gamensmanship. He changes racquets, asks for towel, postpones the serve of his opponent... He is irritating! Shame!
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It's up to the umpire to interpret the rules and make allowances. When players are fighting their hearts out, they give them extra time.
well said.

the rules were made for the betterment of the game, not for the sake of following them blindly. i think for SOME rules and regulations there should be reasonable allowances and exceptions. (like for this rule)
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I am getting very sick and tired of Nadal asking for his towel after almost every point when his opponent is waiting to resume. Surely it cannot be allowed time after time…
In the second set, I noticed PHM has also started to ask for his towel after almost every point. I think it is more of a necessity when a player is sweating too profusely?
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Rafa was given a warning for taking too long in his Monte Carlo match vs Gaudio.

It doesn't bother me how much time a guy takes on his own serve. It's the constant delaying of your opponent's serve that I would love to see something done about. Rafa's gamesmanship is rampant. This is not 'whining', it's called commenting on the facts taking place before your eyes.
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