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Red face Söderling: "Federer is much better than Nadal"

I translate what I found on a very credible newspaper of my country:

http://www.deportivo.cl/medio/articu...002154,00.html
Very annoying after his defeat in first round of Roland Garros at the hands of Rafael Nadal, stayed the Swedish tennis player Robin Söderling. The weird thing is that the Scandinavian “got angry” with Nadal, because after the match indicated that the Spanish does not deserve to won so many times to Roger Federer, because the Swiss is a better player. “Federer is far a better player. In fact, I think that is a little weird that Nadal has won to him several times. I believe that this time Federer will defeat to him”, indicated Soderling. The mentioned triumph on Soderling allowed Nadal to add his consecutive victory number 54 on clay and to surpass therefore the record that until now was in being able of the Argentinean Guillermo Vilas.


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Re: Söderling: "Federer is much better than Nadal"

I doubt if he 's talking about ''Clay''
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I translate what I found on a very credible newspaper of my country:

http://www.deportivo.cl/medio/articu...002154,00.html
Very annoying after his defeat in first round of Roland Garros at the hands of Rafael Nadal, stayed the Swedish tennis player Robin Söderling. The weird thing is that the Scandinavian “got angry” with Nadal, because after the match indicated that the Spanish does not deserve to won so many times to Roger Federer, because the Swiss is a better player. “Federer is far a better player. In fact, I think that is a little weird that Nadal has won to him several times. I believe that this time Federer will defeat to him”, indicated Soderling. The mentioned triumph on Soderling allowed Nadal to add his consecutive victory number 54 on clay and to surpass therefore the record that until now was in being able of the Argentinean Guillermo Vilas.
I see no problem. How is this not true? Yeah, Rafa is great on clay, but the way Roger plays/thinks and just 'does what he does', how long will it be before Roger defeats the walking bicep? Maybe not necessarily RG. That'd be like Rafa defeating Roger at Wimbledon, it would be wrong and 'twilight zone'-like.

Robin is just stating an opinion and isn't saying "Rafa is a jerk and deserves to lose...and the only reason Kristen got about twenty google alerts about me this week, is because they all knew I would lose in his important match"
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Re: Söderling: "Federer is much better than Nadal"

He's actually played them both, which none of us can say. He has a right to his opinion just like anyone else, no?

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His opinion...........he has played both of them........



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He's actually played them both, which none of us can say. He has a right to his opinion just like anyone else, no?
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Re: Söderling: "Federer is much better than Nadal"

I think perhaps he is talking about tennis talent. There is no way anybody can take away from Nadal's results, but there does seem to be two different sets of acolades for Fed and Nadal. For example, McEnroe often talks about Fed's "genius", or "talent", or "incredible shot-making ability", while he talks about Nadal's "mental toughness", or "energy", or "fitness". It seems a lot of other players label the players this way. Soderling was probably bitter that Nadal rarely hit the ball by him yet won so easily.

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Re: Söderling: "Federer is much better than Nadal"

He just said that he considers Federer a better player than Nadal. Only this article is trying to imply that they were sore remarks (i.e. sour grapes), and that doesn't seem to be the case to me.

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Re: Söderling: "Federer is much better than Nadal"

I have read a Swedish paper about what the Toad said.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/...833112,00.html

Men Söderling tror inte att Nadal kommer ta hem franska mästerskapen.

– Nej, Federer är en mycket bättre spelare. Jag tycker faktiskt det är lite konstigt att Nadal slagit honom flera gånger. Jag tror Federer tar honom.

But the Toad doesn't believe that Nadal will go home with the title.

"No, Federer is a much better player. Actually, I think it's a little strange that Nadal has defeated him several times. I believe that Federer will take him."

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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Yeah, Rafa is great on clay, but the way Roger plays/thinks and just 'does what he does', how long will it be before Roger defeats the walking bicep?
I actually think that there is more to Rafa's game than just a bicep. Unlike a lot of posters on this board- I do think he had some good tennis smarts. He shows it more on clay, and I wish he would show it more on hardcourts, but he does have a good tennis mind imo.

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He's actually played them both, which none of us can say. He has a right to his opinion just like anyone else, no?
Yes- he had played them both. Yes, I think that about everyone can say that Federer is the most talented. But- I think it should be acknowledged that Rafa has one of the biggest hearts out there in the sport.

This is one thing that annoys me about tennis. Everyone always seems to say that so and so should have won because they have the most talent. Well- sometimes the fight and grit should be considered and applauded. And that, Rafa has. (I am not saying Rgoer does not have heart, he does...but Nadal's mentaility is such a strength of his game.) If everyone thinks that that the player with the most inate talent should always win- why should there even be matches? To use an analogy from another sport- one of the greatest stories in sport imo of 2006+ was when George Mason beat the far more talented Connecticut during the Elite Eight of the NCAA basketball tournament. GMU simply played to their upmost and deserved the win, regardless of the fact that Uconn had much more talent on their team.

I think the fact that sometimes players find a way to win against players that have more inate ability on the tennis court than they do should be cheered, not derieded as it seems to often be here.

I like a lot of players.
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Re: Söderling: "Federer is much better than Nadal"

if you dont like his opinion then send him a e-mail.....no one cares
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I got an automatic answer from his mailbox : "I am out of office during the next 2 weeks"
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I actually think that there is more to Rafa's game than just a bicep. Unlike a lot of posters on this board- I do think he had some good tennis smarts. He shows it more on clay, and I wish he would show it more on hardcourts, but he does have a good tennis mind imo.



Yes- he had played them both. Yes, I think that about everyone can say that Federer is the most talented. But- I think it should be acknowledged that Rafa has one of the biggest hearts out there in the sport.

This is one thing that annoys me about tennis. Everyone always seems to say that so and so should have won because they have the most talent. Well- sometimes the fight and grit should be considered and applauded. And that, Rafa has. (I am not saying Rgoer does not have heart, he does...but Nadal's mentaility is such a strength of his game.) If everyone thinks that that the player with the most inate talent should always win- why should there even be matches? To use an analogy from another sport- one of the greatest stories in sport imo of 2006+ was when George Mason beat the far more talented Connecticut during the Elite Eight of the NCAA basketball tournament. GMU simply played to their upmost and deserved the win, regardless of the fact that Uconn had much more talent on their team.

I think the fact that sometimes players find a way to win against players that have more inate ability on the tennis court than they do should be cheered, not derieded as it seems to often be here.
Was he dismissive of Rafa's abilities?? I didn't think so. He just thought Roger was the better player.

I don't think anyone can be dismissive of Rafa's abilities. Both Roger and Rafa bring something different to the game. Some will enjoy Rafa more than Roger while others will enjoy Roger more than Rafa..........and some will enjoy the both. I think it is fair to say that Roger is more talented than Rafa, but obviously that doesn't mean Roger will win every one of their encounters because Rafa brings a couple other things to the table Nevertheless, tennis is about Roger and Rafa.

As for Soderling, he played a terrible match yesterday. Rafa didn't exactly play a tight match yesterday and there were opportunities offered to his opponent, but Soderling just wasn't good enough to capitalize.



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I actually think that there is more to Rafa's game than just a bicep. Unlike a lot of posters on this board- I do think he had some good tennis smarts. He shows it more on clay, and I wish he would show it more on hardcourts, but he does have a good tennis mind imo.
As do I. Not meant to be taken literally, although I am sure there are many on MTF who like him for this reason more than anything else.
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