Rios accuses Andre of drug use? - Page 4 - MensTennisForums.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #46 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 03:18 PM
Registered User
 
Sjengster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Somewhere fairly shingly
Age: 32
Posts: 11,359
                     
Re: Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

You know what tangerine? You're probably right. Although it was quite amusing to witness Agassi call Spadea the ultimate journeyman and then promptly get dispatched from the Australian Open by that self-same journeyman. That was Dre's most recent loss at Melbourne Park... happy days will come again, yours and my happy days!

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
Sjengster is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #47 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 03:27 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 394
                     
Rios can be an idiot (actually is one most of the time), but I can't help
but be glad that the tour has some players like him...just to mix it up!
I find him intriguing, even if he is an imbecile (which I agree he is a lot
of the time)....
RebelNYC is offline  
post #48 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 04:07 PM
Registered User
 
Sjengster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Somewhere fairly shingly
Age: 32
Posts: 11,359
                     
Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Woh there tangy, I never said either of them was brave (not normally a word I would associate with Rios), nor did I say that Ljubicic should be praised for his bitching against Roddick. The point is that Rios makes an art of it, he knows that he's being deliberately churlish and hasn't got much of a case to criticise Agassi, but he does it anyway. Ljubicic's comments were just ill-advised.

Don't worry, if Federer starts to falter or his ranking and level of play drops the criticism will come. The Federer bandwagon is gathering steam, but most of it is deserved - for most of 2002 he was getting a tide of criticism from the presenter of the Masters Series on Sky over here for not living up to his potential. One question though: how is it that you can include Federer as one of the "Three Kings" (now that's what I call worshipping a player) if you're the one who keeps sneering at him?

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
Sjengster is offline  
 
post #49 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 04:23 PM
country flag Shy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: in my house
Age: 31
Posts: 1,339
                     
Re: Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sjengster
advised.

The Federer bandwagon is gathering steam, but most of it is deserved - for most of 2002 he was getting a tide of criticism from the presenter of the Masters Series on Sky over here for not living up to his potential.
Well,he got a lots of criticism from most tennis commentators for not living up to his talent in 2002.
Shy is offline  
post #50 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 04:26 PM
Registered User
 
Sjengster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Somewhere fairly shingly
Age: 32
Posts: 11,359
                     
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

I'm sure he did, but I was particularly aware of this bloke's criticism since he was the anchorman for every TMS event that year. Simultaneously he was drooling all over Roddick, although during the summer hardcourt season that was hardly surprising when you consider his form then compared to Federer's.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
Sjengster is offline  
post #51 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 04:57 PM
Registered User
 
Ma. Estefania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Guayaquil, Ecuador
Age: 30
Posts: 4,819
                     
Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Quote:
Originally Posted by trixy
Well if thats what Rios actually said unomiele i would hate say it but i probably agree with him. The atp would never want one of their star players which promote the sport so much to have any taint of drugs near them but they dont minded naming lesser known players because at least then it looks like they are doing something about the drugs problem.
I completely agree, that's why that when I had just finished reading the short article at the newspaper a couple of days ago, I agreed with Ríos, though I don't specially like him.

But yeah, he's got a good point.

Aren't all love stories destined to fail?
Ma. Estefania is offline  
post #52 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 08:47 PM
Registered User
 
undomiele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Buenos Aires
Age: 39
Posts: 1,735
                     
Re: Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WyverN
Rios's mistake (if he infact did it) is speculating in public without any evidence. Sounds like sour grapes, sort of like Clijster's Dad accusation of Henin.

Rios made speculations of Agassi for the sake of argument, whether he wanted to rag on him or not is besides the point. He's just saying how can the ATP assure the fans and the other players that theyre not playing favorites and not protecting the results of the most money-making players?

Hence the need for an independent body to verify the results.
Does this not make sense? Seems to me that some ppl here just want to rag on Rios.... which is fine, he's a controversial figure, but I think the man made a good point.
undomiele is offline  
post #53 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 09:25 PM
country flag Leo
Registered User
 
Leo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 29
Posts: 8,581
                     
Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Agassi has taken so many drug tests in his career (19 just last year) that it would not have been possible for him to take steroids and not get caught.

Djokovic // Del Potro // Paire // Thiem // M. Zverev // Youzhny
Coric // Khachanov // Donaldson // A. Zverev // Bublik
Ferrero // Rafter
Leo is offline  
post #54 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-13-2004, 09:48 PM
country flag Leo
Registered User
 
Leo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Age: 29
Posts: 8,581
                     
Re: Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WyverN
Rios's mistake (if he infact did it) is speculating in public without any evidence. Sounds like sour grapes, sort of like Clijster's Dad accusation of Henin.
Wow, we agree for once!

Djokovic // Del Potro // Paire // Thiem // M. Zverev // Youzhny
Coric // Khachanov // Donaldson // A. Zverev // Bublik
Ferrero // Rafter
Leo is offline  
post #55 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-14-2004, 12:14 AM
Registered User
 
tennischick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 6,771
                     
Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

i just returned from a South American country and i did not read any such news in any of the newspapers. this would have been too big a deal to be ignored IMO.

Q. When you've played as few matches as you have over the last two, three months, did you ever lack motivation to go out and practice?

ANDY RODDICK: Motivation? No. I enjoy what I do. I enjoy what I do. You know, I've never been one to, you know, blow off practice or, you know, do anything like that.

You know, I'd be lying if I said I'm looking forward to practicing the next two days as opposed to playing here. That part is gonna suck...(2010 Aegon Championships)
tennischick is offline  
post #56 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-14-2004, 01:31 AM
Registered User
 
Ma. Estefania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Guayaquil, Ecuador
Age: 30
Posts: 4,819
                     
Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

From where TChick? Argentina?

It was sort of a big deal, I even saw it on my local newspaper (Guayaquil, Ecuador) and I think that in Chile as the "Chino" talks....it's important, you know...

Aren't all love stories destined to fail?
Ma. Estefania is offline  
post #57 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-14-2004, 04:59 AM
Registered User
 
JeLuliA88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 521
                     
Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Rios is talking absolute rubbish i wouldn't be surprised if he was the one taking drugs...
JeLuliA88 is offline  
post #58 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-14-2004, 10:01 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,414
                     
Re: Re: Re: Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
Wow, we agree for once!
I am worried.
WyverN is offline  
post #59 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-14-2004, 02:56 PM
country flag Pea
Registered User
 
Pea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,938
                     
Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

I agree he should've had more evidence to back him, but he does have excellent points.

GoOD luCk iN 2004:
{{{Alex Corretja}}}
{{{Roger Federer}}}
{{{Janko Tipsarevic}}}
{{{Andreas Vinciguerra}}}
{{{Mikhail Youzhny}}}
(Agustin Calleri)(Hicham Arazi)(Nicolas Kiefer)(Sebastien Grosjean)(Rafael Nadal)
(Tommy Robredo)(Xavier Malisse)(Gustavo Kuerten)(Rainer Schuettler)(Fernando Gonzalez)
(Mark Philippoussis)(Gaston Gaudio)(Albert Montanes)(Ivan Ljubicic)(Mariano Zabaleta) & Many More...

FoRevEr:
{{{STEFAN EDBERG}}}
Pea is offline  
post #60 of 87 (permalink) Old 01-15-2004, 03:43 AM
Registered User
 
Ace Tracker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 420
                     
Re: Rios accuses Andre of drug use?

great posts, Star, I am surprised at the level of naivete disclosed by some of the fans... Truth is that the ATP's testing policy and divulgation is not transparent, bordering on suspicious, and the fact that so many former top players are coming out with drug usage revelations does not help their cause at all... Of course we, the general public, are kept in the dark and can only summon names without any proof, as if in a futile and evil exercise... But to whoever has the privilege of getting to talk to players, coaches or other insiders, it's interesting to note that Agassi's name has always been mentioned in a "hushed" way, to a much more extension than Pete's for example... Of course that does not prove or say anything, but the lingering sensation among players that the ATP would never out one of its marquee names is very much palpable... I was recently talking to a coach of an ATP player who is ranked in the middle 200's... While celebrating New Year's Eve in his house in Eastern Europe, ATP officials knocked at the door to perform an urine test unannounced... So the Association has strict norms for its unknown, lower ranked players but a very different set of rules for the top ones...hardly surprising, considering that tennis is a business after all...
Ace Tracker is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome