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Thank You Rafael Nadal, For Making Tennis Fun Again

Admit it. The past 2 years or so of Federer dominance and rare as diamond losses are as boring as watching paint dry. The last 2 years, Federer has really destroyed every player he's come across and gave press conferences afterwards that said that the player was good and spoke as if he had just edged out a win, when indeed he was busy winning in straights of a slam final ala Wimbeldon 05 or USO 04. Or when he beat Roddick at Cincinnati in 05 and said something to the effect of how he loves playing Roddick and it wasnt just because he won everytime.

2004 and 2005 were the dullest years of tennis following the everyday excitement of 2003 with a Roddick that could actually play, a Ferrero that had skillz, and a not yet fully developed and dominating Federer that lost to Nalbandian and Roddick.

Then came along Rafael Nadal, the only player that has the cojones to stand up to the bully on the playground in Roger Federer. And in 2006, he has actually made him look more and more human everytime he steps on the other side of that little net in the middle. He has gotten in Federer's head and made him actually say things like him being one dimensional, saying hes better than Rafael on clay, and what have you. Personally, I hope that they meet in the final of every tournament they play in and Nadal wins consistently.

Now, this "new kid on the block" mentalilty has caused fans of both to be critical of the other. As a Rafa fan, I may have some tilt on my views, but from what I've seen, Fed Fans seem to be more radical in their views. Such as the post that Tangy has in her blog at www.roddickwatch.blogspot.com (Great blog Tangy, where is Roddick Monthly, though? ) However, Nadal fans arent out of the clear. I've seen Nadal fans post some things that are seriously out of line and uncalled for. I dont have any links, but they are present.

Finally, this rivalry needs to be advertised and built up by the ATP and other tennis television, newspaper, and internet entities to be the main draw of tennis event when the Roddick-Federer "rivalry" crashed out miserably. If marketed correctly, this could really bring tennis revenues and help out the sport considerably. Thank you Rafael Nadal, for making tennis (and tennis message boards) fun again.

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Re: Thank You Rafael Nadal, For Making Tennis Fun Again

I actually agree with your sentiment but not your choice of words or the fact that you started Yet Another Thread (TM).

And why the childish attitude in this paragraph?

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Then came along Rafael Nadal, the only player that has the cojones to stand up to the bully on the playground in Roger Federer. And in 2006, he has actually made him look more and more human everytime he steps on the other side of that little net in the middle. He has gotten in Federer's head and made him actually say things like him being one dimensional, saying hes better than Rafael on clay, and what have you. Personally, I hope that they meet in the final of every tournament they play in and Nadal wins consistently and Federer has 78 UE's per match as well.

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1.Admit it. The past 2 years or so of Federer dominance and rare as diamond losses are as boring as watching paint dry.

2. Personally, I hope that they meet in the final of every tournament they play in and Nadal wins consistently and Federer has 78 UE's per match as well.
What's the difference between 1 and 2 in terms of entertainment?

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Re: Thank You Rafael Nadal, For Making Tennis Fun Again

sorry, forgot to edit that part out

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Re: Thank You Rafael Nadal, For Making Tennis Fun Again

Use your free hand for something more constructive, Blazey.

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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If you were honest enough to say that you didn't like Federer, I could cope with that, but saying "Ah good, now we've got a REAL rivalry!" and then declaring "OMG I hope Rafa wins everytime!!!" are not compatible statements.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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Functionally speaking, if one person is dominating or if two people are dominating, I don't really think it's that different and I wasn't any more entertained by tennis in 2005 and the start of this year than I was in 2004

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It's not a bad post, in fact I agree with most of it. Apart from a few things here and there. Their rivalry is enjoyable, and i'm glad that someone can challenge Federer.

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If you were honest enough to say that you didn't like Federer, I could cope with that, but saying "Ah good, now we've got a REAL rivalry!" and then declaring "OMG I hope Rafa wins everytime!!!" are not compatible statements.
I just said that I hope Nadal wins consistently, I didnt say that I hope he won EVERY TIME. Consistent how I meant it was that they had great matches and that Nadal would win and stay consistently ahead in the H2H, not that he would DOMINATE him. Sorry if its a bit unclear

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Comments such as "bully in the playground" Federer (oh what a bully, everyone knows how nasty he is in the lockerroom to everyone else!) and hoping that he makes 78 UE per match seem to indicate that you hope he falls from his present status very swiftly. Which is fine, but when it's replaced by more of the same from somebody else, except a similar thread with someone else's name in the title in a few years' time.

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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Comments such as "bully in the playground" Federer (oh what a bully, everyone knows how nasty he is in the lockerroom to everyone else!) and hoping that he makes 78 UE per match seem to indicate that you hope he falls from his present status very swiftly. Which is fine, but when it's replaced by more of the same from somebody else, except a similar thread with someone else's name in the title in a few years' time.
bully on the playground was to denote that he was the person that always won. He always picked on the other players on the court and toying with them with incredible shots, while Nadal is the kid getting picked on that fights back again and again, unlike the one-off guys that fight the bully like Safin, Gasquet, and Nalbandian. It was a metaphor man.

And I dont think that someone (Nadal) will knock him off his perch for at least another 365 days. I also dont think that Rafa will be as dominate and remain as the king of the hill as far away from the field as Federer. If Rafa ever gets #1, he will have to continue to fight for it, just as he plays on the court. And that in and of itself is exciting, no?

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Well there might be a rivalry but I would prefer a lot more upsets of those two. I don't find either one very "exciting" although I prefer watching Fed play tennis. Nadal just doesn't "do it" for me; whatever it is

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I agree with blazey, It's exciting 4 tennis and really ... I'm so tired of Federer, you know I just don't get the arrogance.

If FEDERER said something like: I just can't figure how to play him, or I feel I can get to him, but he's really capable on the dirt anything in which he sort ADMITS that he has NOT the upper hand as he usually does, that would make him look so much better, but no .... why not say things like, RAFA is not necessarily better than me on clay OMG come on now ...

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Nadal/Federer is like McEnroe/Borg. Energetic against reserved. The difference is Federer doesn't dominate Nadal like Borg did with Johnny Mac, so there is no reason to quit.

I hope they play each other in a Grand Slam again so I get to see it. It's fun to watch the contrasting styles. It would be even better if Nadal talked a ton of smack like McEnroe did. It seems Federer has taken over that role though with his recent comments.
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