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Tennis-x 2004 year-end predictions

Okay, we'll admit that our year-end 2003 predictions did not turn out so well. But hey, we'll give it another go and try to do a little bit better this year. Maybe even a lot better. So herewith, some thoughts on 2004:
January 4, 2004

ATP 2004 YEAR-END RANKING PREDICTIONS


RANK PLAYER THE SKINNY
1. Roger Federer When his game is on, one can only think of the words of MC Hammer: Can't Touch This.
2. Juan Carlos Ferrero The game's best from the ground, should another Roland Garros title and his continued strong hardcourt play will cement this Spaniard among the Top 3.
3. Andy Roddick Can he repeat his incredible 2003 second-half run? No way. But under Gilbert "The Great Hope of Tennis" won't have another sub-par first-half.
4. Guillermo Coria Has the talent to contend for Slam titles and for No. 1, but young players usually don't respond well to marriage, especially when they are from Argentina. The big breakout will have to wait.
5. Lleyton Hewitt Davis Cup proved he still has the heart of a lion and the fire to win. Now if he would only play a few more events he could quickly return among the game's elite. C'mon.
6. Tim Henman Armed with a healthy shoulder and a new playbook courtesy of Paul Annacone, the serve-and-volley routine will continue to reap rewards.
7. Rainer Schuettler German ironman plays a consistent, low risk game that will get him far in most events, but not far enough for a Top 5 finish.
8. David Nalbandian Has the game, the fire and the attitude that could lead to a Slam win and a spot among the final Top 3. But a bum wrist makes him a risky pick.
9. Andre Agassi Will add a few more titles to his resume, but the Slam victories are over. Of course, that's been written many many times before only to be proven wrong in the end.
10. Carlos Moya The former No. 1 should enjoy another solid season, but his best tennis may be behind him.
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I agree with some but not others.... I don't see Schuettler having a better year than Andre... I don't know if I see Tim having a good enough year to go all the way to #6, but who knows. Interesting that they don't have Safin in there, and they didn't take a shot with anyone like Grosjean, Paradorn, Fish, Flip, etc. etc.....

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9. Andre Agassi Will add a few more titles to his resume, but the Slam victories are over. Of course, that's been written many many times before only to be proven wrong in the end.
Yes, I remember reading that same sentiment in Jon Wertheim's column in early 1999! (seriously)

well, if they say it enough times it will be right someday, lol.
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HAHAHAHA true... but considering the last time we saw Andre he got to the final of the year-end tournament where everyone else was in the top 8, and that was after being totally stale... so it still seems early to write him off that much yet lol

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Prediction is like bad luck or something.
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lol true.... and tennis-x did a pretty SHITTY job last year lmao

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Writers are just itching to be proven wrong again and again by Andre.

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LOL, I was able to find the archive of that old Wertheim mailbag! This is from Feb. 8, 1999:

Do you think Andre Agassi should retire? The Associated Press story on Agassi after his loss to Vince Spadea was brutal. Andre probably will not win another Slam but he is still in the top 10. What do you think his problems have been in the last few Slams? Do you think he has lost his physical ability? How come the press reacted harshly to Agassi losing early Down Under? It seems to me that there were quite a few seeds who lost before Agassi. Finally, will Andre make the International Tennis Hall of Fame?
—Bob Diepold, Charlotte, N.C.

I didn't see that particular AP article but I think the press reacted harshly because after the second-round exodus of seeds, the tournament was Agassi's to win. (Also, after Pat Rafter bit the dust, Agassi was the only hope the men's draw had for keeping pace with the women's in terms of excitement.) Instead of seizing the day, he came out flat as a gameboard against Spadea, a player he should be able to beat in his sleep, in a high-stakes match, and never found his game. The Agassi of old struggled plenty but often found a way to elevate his game within five sets. There was a sustained stretch last year when Agassi was gangbusters, hitting the ball as well as I'd ever seen him. But since August, he's reverted to his erratic ways, looking like a No. 1 player one match and like a clueless qualifier the next. My suspicion is that as he nears age 29, his days of winning Slams are behind him. Still, he's a no-brainer for the Hall of Fame. Winning three majors, remaining a fixture in the top 10 for a decade, playing Davis Cup consistently (and, of course, introducing tennis to day-glo apparel, denim shorts, two-toned rat-tails and the virtues of Suddenly Susan) are more than sufficient criteria.
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LOL. Thanks MisterQ. It's always interesting to go back and read comments made at certain points in time.

So overall, winning 3 majors and several lesser titles is enough to get inducted into the Hall of Fame in the men's game?

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4. Guillermo Coria Has the talent to contend for Slam titles and for No. 1, but young players usually don't respond well to marriage, especially when they are from Argentina. The big breakout will have to wait.
8. David Nalbandian Has the game, the fire and the attitude that could lead to a Slam win and a spot among the final Top 3. But a bum wrist makes him a risky pick.
I hope that doesn't happen to Coria, I hope marriage won't affect him, coz yeah, it's something important in everyone's life...

About David, I hope the damn wrist doesn't bother him during the rest of the year.

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So overall, winning 3 majors and several lesser titles is enough to get inducted into the Hall of Fame in the men's game?
I'm guessing it's roughly the bare minimum for getting in as predominantly a singles player. But I have never followed it that closely... Agassi's years in the Top Ten and "star" status surely would have made some difference. And maybe the Gold Medal too. Luckily, there is no need to debate that now, with 8 majors!

I'm sure Courier will get in with 4 majors. And Edberg will get it next year.
And Sampras obviously!

Of current players who have been around a while, the big question marks are Kuerten and Kafelnikov.

Here's the list of inductees, if you are interested. (You'll see that Ashe made it with just two slams, but he was special in so many other ways...)

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Thanks for the link.
I agree that Courier and Edberg will get in.

I thought Ashe has 3 slams though...or so I read from my tennis "encyclopedia/bible".
(aka Official Guide to Professional Tennis 2004).

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Thanks for the link.
I agree that Courier and Edberg will get in.

I thought Ashe has 3 slams though...or so I read from my tennis "encyclopedia/bible".
(aka Official Guide to Professional Tennis 2004).
You are correct, sir!

I had forgotten that he won the Australian Open.

so has US Championships 1968, AO1970, and Wimby 1975 (a brilliant strategic victory over Connors --- watched it on tape recently!)
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I wonder if Rafter has a chance
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I wonder if Rafter has a chance
He might! Didn't think of him...
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Interesting Top 10 by Tennis-x. They didn't seem to take very many risks in terms of adding new players to the Top 10, besides Tim Henman of course, which surprised me.

If Nalbandian stays healthy for the entire year, he'll undoubtedly be higher than #8 at year-end, but they're right, with his wrist he's a risky bet.

I don't think the "Three Kings" will all remain in the Top 3 by the end of 2004. It just doesn't seem realistic to me with all the other talents bitings at their heels, including a rejuvinated Safin and more confident Hewitt. I think at least one of them will fall out - most likely it won't be Federer.

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Djokovic.
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