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The percentage of each surface/level ATP World tour (With picture)

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#1 ·
I did this some time ago but did not post here. Since then I read so many times that it is not clay which is overrepresented but HC is. I think otherwise. Basically I don't think GS surfaces is needed to change and I separated outdoor HC and indoor HC because it plays differently. I used GSs+WTF for a starting point and counted each tournament in the 2015 season. I hope this can help a healthy discuss about what changes we need in the calendar surface and tournament wise.

 
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#2 ·
We have known this for many years: clay is over-represented. It begins with the South American clay season, then the Euro swing from April (Monte Carlo being 1st). Even after Wimby we get the 2nd "small" clay season now with an ATP500 as Hamburg.

Way too many tourneys, I'd like to change some of them to another grass 500 or even grass Masters just before Wimby.
You are right, MDot.
 
#7 ·
Well outdoor hard is only overrepresented in the Masters level but overall its about right, given that we need two HC season for the AO and USO. Clay has 30% in overall and 30%+ in masters when it is only 20% from the big tournaments (GSs+WTF). I think 3 Masters for 1 Slam is too much 2 is enough and I would change Shanghai to indoor HC probably. Then from the 1 clay Masters (Madrid seems to like experiments) I would make a grass Masters in the grass season. We certainly don't have time for two grass masters ATM so 1 would be enough.

On a side note I would make 10 Masters tournament and only 8 of them would be mandatory but players could choose which 2 they would like to skip. This would help surface specialized players and we would have a deeper field in Wimbledon for example with fast surface specialists who could basically skip the clay masters or not count them in the mandatory tournaments.
 
#5 ·
Why would be that? Surfaces changed for the past 40 years so much just think about carpet. It was pretty important surface and now it is extinct, while players like McEnroe, Becker and some others won so many titles on that surface. Are their titles compromised? I dont think so.
 
#8 ·
take 8% off outdoor hard and 5% from clay and add it to grass imo
 
#10 ·
So, Djokovic takes the biggest advantage in the distribution of surfaces. 50% of Grand Slams, 66% of Masters and 100% of WTF are on his favorite surface, while Nadal has only 25% of Grand Slams, 33% of Masters and 0% of WTF in his favor.
 
#17 · (Edited)
HC is the most fair surface because it's usually have midieum court speeds compared to grass (fast) and clay (slow). Plus the bounce on a HC surface is consistent (the bounce differs from one HC surface to another of course which is good but on one surface it's consistent). If there should be more events of a certain surface, then the tour needs more grass and more fast HCs not clay. There are enough clay tournaments already on the tour. 45% HC (15% Indoors), 30% Clay, 25% Grass would be ideal imo. Grass costs too much tho so there won't be more grass events unfortunately.
 
#21 ·
June and July should be entirely grass season. Get rid of every single one of those idiotic clay tournaments after Wimbledon and replace them with grass ones. Add a masters for the surface too and get rid of one of the others.
 
#23 · (Edited)
I think everything should be rotated to keep things fair and interesting. At the same time I think they should work on engineering hardcourt surfaces as the ultimate endgame in simulating the currently existing surfaces. It seems like the tech should be there to approximate grass and clay. Hard seems like it has more potential to be a universal surface emulator.

ultimately though, I think variety should be maximized so as to not favor a particular player or style and to force the cream to adapt and prove their superiority.
 
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