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View Poll Results: Which retired (or soon to retire) player will you miss the most?
Patrick Rafter 15 20.83%
Michael Chang 2 2.78%
Pete Sampras 20 27.78%
Richard Krajicek 2 2.78%
Magnus Larsson 2 2.78%
Karim Alami 1 1.39%
Marcelo Rios 2 2.78%
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 7 9.72%
Goran Ivanisevic 12 16.67%
Andre Agassi 9 12.50%
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post #1 of 59 (permalink) Old 12-17-2003, 04:55 AM Thread Starter
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Players' Retirement

After you vote, explain why.
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Re: Players' Retirement

In what context? Are you saying which players should retire?
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Re: Re: Players' Retirement

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In what context? Are you saying which players should retire?

Just pick who you personally will miss, whether because of emotional
attachment, your enjoyment of his game, etc.


And people, while you're explaining, it would be fun to know who you'll
miss THE LEAST & why.
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No surprise, I will miss Agassi the most. Hard to imagine the game without him actually.

But there are many excellent young players, and the game will still be exciting for me, even with Andre gone.
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Pete......my all-time favorite, I could (and did!) watch him play for hours. and I'm one of the few who liked his personality.

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Sorry Devotee your poll didn't show up when I clicked on this message the first time.

This one was hard the actual one I would miss the most was Jeff Tarango, but I voted for Magnus Larsson.

Big Larsson well he played a game that wasn't all power, he used a lot of angles as well. He used to play very well against the top players, he beat Sampras 3 times in a row in 1997. He enjoyed the party life too much and wasn't keen on training, but he was fun to watch. Alami, Krajicek and Rios will be also missed.

As for the least it would be Chang. Why well he was never a favourite of mine, unfortunately for him he was Mr Second good but not good enough (89 FO exception)

The whole religious thing was over the top. For sure it's fine to have strong religious beliefs, but not to the point that we would hear about them constantly, and for one I won't miss the excessive religious talk.
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GORAN the Croatian god

I got carried away with the following explanation of my vote but
I just couldn't help myself.

Goran, oh Goran, how do I love you?
Let me count the ways!

Whether it's your racket smashing,
your spectacular serve and over-all game,
your drop-dead gorgeous looks and intense sensuality,
your evil glances into the audience during matches,
your multiple personalities (all of them sensational),
your provocative news conferences,
your struggles to win Wimbledon,
your endurance of painful injuries and surgeries,
your ability to be so so funny,
your commitment to your charities,
your patriotism to your country,
you're not just another player who's
ultra-talented, high in the rankings and good for
the sport of tennis --

you are some man and you're a god in my eyes!
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Goran was definitely unique, then again his comments about Woodforde's backhand and if his kid had played a backhand like that, were very funny and cheers to his political incorrectness.
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Pete Sampras -- my least missed

Most people will be surprised to know that the player
I'll miss the least is Pete Sampras.
I don't want to offend his fans, so I'll try to word
this as politely as I can.
His perceived position (by some fans) as the greatest
player of all time disregarded his incomplete game.
He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.
He had a dull personality, although a nice one.
His serve, serve, serve got on my nerves.
Now many other players have the chance to win tournaments
or go far in the draw, since Pete's serve won't be in their
way to completely shut down their games.
This will make the sport of tennis much more interesting
for fans worldwide.
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Re: Re: Players' Retirement

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The whole religious thing was over the top. For sure it's fine to have strong religious beliefs, but not to the point that we would hear about them constantly, and for one I won't miss the excessive religious talk.
Agreed. I admired Chang's tenacity as a player, but I never enjoyed hearing all the religious talk either.
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Re: Pete Sampras -- my least missed

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Most people will be surprised to know that the player
I'll miss the least is Pete Sampras.
I don't want to offend his fans, so I'll try to word
this as politely as I can.
His perceived position (by some fans) as the greatest
player of all time disregarded his incomplete game.
He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.
He had a dull personality, although a nice one.
His serve, serve, serve got on my nerves.
Now many other players have the chance to win tournaments
or go far in the draw, since Pete's serve won't be in their
way to completely shut down their games.
This will make the sport of tennis much more interesting
for fans worldwide.
I certainly won't miss his shut-downs of Andre, that's for sure! As Andre humorously said, when asked about Pete's USO2003 retirement ceremony: I wish it had happened last year! LOL!

But I will miss Sampras in general. It's rare that you get to watch genius in action. Only a select few players really bring that to the table. Sampras, Agassi, McEnroe, Federer...
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The whole religious thing was over the top. For sure it's fine to have strong religious beliefs, but not to the point that we would hear about them constantly, and for one I won't miss the excessive religious talk.
i'm sorry, but i think he is just a typical devoted Christian, he knows that he will be offending people when he thanks God in his interviews, but i believe that he is sincerely grateful for all he has accomplised. But other than that, i did see him having those so called "excessive religious talk" like The End is Near or anything like that did he? Just find it ironic that many people actually enjoy Patrick's trash talking yet feels disgusted with Chang's Christianity belief, oh well, that's life But Michael will one i miss the most since he was really close to #1.

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Re: Pete Sampras -- my least missed

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His perceived position (by some fans) as the greatest
player of all time disregarded his incomplete game.
By some fans? He will be perceived as the greatest by any serious fan of tennis. (not many people on this forum)

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He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.
He was still one of the top 10 players of his generation on clay. Not to bad for a worst surface.


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His serve, serve, serve got on my nerves.
Now many other players have the chance to win tournaments
or go far in the draw, since Pete's serve won't be in their
way to completely shut down their games.
This will make the sport of tennis much more interesting
for fans worldwide.
Pete's game was far more then serve. Far more. To say he shut down players with just his serve is stupid.
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Re: Players' Retirement

i gotta say 1 of my fav & exciting player on the court in his tome, Pete Sampras!!!!!!!!
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He did not have the shots for clay courts and that
meant he did not have a complete game.
I am not going to miss Sampras too much, yes it was bad that he never made a final at RG, but he wasn't a total loser on clay. The only weakness he had was his high backhand, which got shown up on clay but everything else about his game was outstanding, the serve, volleys, running forehand, overheads, court movement was very good as well. Sure the serve was an important factor, but it wasn't the only factor to his greatness.

Coolman, I didn't question Chang's sincerity about his beliefs, but there is a time and place for it. There have been a few players with strong Christian beliefs Enqvist, Medvedev, Wheaton but these views weren't broadcast incessantly as they were concerning Chang.
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