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Fed needs some time.

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#1 ·
My theory is that Federer is trying to be more aggressive, and it's taking him time to suit to it. As you can see by today's stats, he didn't really play too bad, just not yet comfortable with his new aggressive yet.
I have some proof to back this theory, Fed and Edberg both have implied that he's trying to be more aggressive.
Fed said so after USO Final - "Maybe I haven't played this offensive for a very long time, and that's maybe the reasons, as well, why maybe I was slightly shaky when it came to the crunch on the break points. Who knows?"
Edberg has said so in another interview after USO Final - "His game changed so much and it takes time to suit to it."
"We want him to spend as little energy as possible and to go to the net in order to get "easy" points. In some matches his game worked, but it's clear that Roger still doesn't have continuity on this aspect. We only need a little bit of time."

So, there. Just putting some info out there.
 
#4 ·
He used to it, that's what made him reach the finals of Wimbledons, USO, Rome, IW, Dubai, WTF and Cincy.
 
#5 ·
Right. He couldn't be broken almost whole summer. I think it's just an unimportant stumble and he will be a force in Paris and London. But maybe (as others already said in another thread) his two lost GS finals still affect him.
 
#21 ·
There you go. Time. Most precious commodity. Too bad he's running out of. Everybody is.
He can keep 're-inventing' himself all he wants, time is not on his side.

How about using technique that brought him 17 Slams. I know, he's old, ain't spry no more.
What's happening to Rafa will catch up with Fed, and eventually with Joker. But, that's normal, you know. You have your time, and then you leave, for good.
 
#15 ·
He doesn't need time, he's just a declined player, which is expected from a 34 year old...losing matches like this one from time to time.
It takes a special player like Fed to reach two slam finals in a season at this stage of his career. Prime Fed would never allow that grinding robot to be #1, let alone win 3 slams...
 
#16 ·
Stop making excuses, this is pathetic...first wimbledon 2014, then wimbledon 2015, us open 2015...list goes on and on...he got beat end of story. He is not the goat but one of the greats, he is playing in an era where two players have given him more than he could handle. Such is life eh, remember federer for what he once was.
 
#18 ·
Yes I am wondering why he bothered to even fly out here

I said during the DC after the USO that I was shocked he was playing that and that it meant he wasn't playing Shanghai

Someone in the result thread said he looked like he hadn't played since the DC. Probably hasn't.

I guess that Rolex money is too much to pass up

He will play his usual self in Europe
 
#43 ·
@leng jai

It's not just referring back that to 2006, even for example last year, after suffering a heartbreaking loss in Wimbledon, he was able to win 2 masters(his best title win since 2012) quite soon after that, and still playing good tennis on the way. How does that not show he isn't good at bouncing back from tough losses? He doesn't win a slam anymore because he's no longer good enough, but you don't need to win a slam immediately to prove that you are good at bouncing back from tough losses.
 
#45 ·
I'm talking about this year specifically and how his belief and eventually motivation is being eroded. He's bouncing back against inferior opponents (this week was an opponent far below his level) but not doing any better when it really matters. The way he played the USO final is a clear sign that he in fact did not bounce back from the Wimbledon final at all, and instead went backwards with how he played the match. Putting aside his technical shortcomings these days, there's no doubt in my mind that these back to back slam final losses to Djokovic in his traditionally best tournaments has done major damage to his outlook.

I wouldn't be surprised if his motivation starts to dwindle now and the poor losses start becoming frequent. I mean it makes sense even from a purely chronological perspective. Maybe it has finally dawned on him that no, he probably can't beat Djokovic in a slam anymore which is fine, and expected. Everyone else knows it, but Federer himself accepting him is another thing entirely and who knows how that will change his approach to playing everyone else.
 
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#44 ·
I don't see any reason behind the loss other than Fed being a little lazy, a little passive and his opponent playing well and not letting go. He could have won in straight sets, instead he lost in 3. It happens. Sadly for us Fed fans, now we have to wait 2 weeks to watch him playing again. So I hope he takes this time to practice a bit lol
 
#48 · (Edited)
Federer this season:
W-3R-W-F-[3R-W-2R-F-QF]-W-F-W-F-2R-?-?-?

He was not consistent even if we overlook his clay results. I think he will be okay. I also think if he could beat Djokovic and end his indoor streak it would be much better than a Shanghai trophy. I said it last year and I say it again, WTF should be a bigger priority for him than slams, its BO3 and Djokovic is closing in on him but he has a chance.

EDIT: I just realized how fucking he overplayed tha clay season. 5 tournaments when only 3 is mandatory and he has the exemptions? Its okay though because it looks it didnt effect him, but it was a bad decision I think.
 
#56 ·
Funny thing is: while Nadal aged physically, Federer did age mentally.
Not saying of course that he has become a mental midget, though some of his losses this year cannot be explained by the Bo3/Bo5 and physicality aspect... like this match as it was on a quicker court.
 
#65 ·
Hanna-Senpai should not be allowed to post in a forum with Federer and Djokovic as topic. He/She simply hijacks the thread with insults to Novak fans. :facepalm:
 
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