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Hingis and Federer??

I have been thinking about the career of these two great players, and Hingis coming back to play next year. In the beginning of the Swiss Miss career, she dominated the tour. Being the top player and consistent, winning major titles. No one thought that Hingis could be usurped as the best player in the world. That she was on her way to becoming the best of all-time. Then all of a sudden players started her beating consistently, and the wins became less and less.

Could this happen to Roger? The Federer Express is now seen as the best player of the world, with multiple grandslam titles. His career right now can be compared to the career of Hingis at the height of her tennis. Though Roger had another great season, his three notable loses this year(safin,nadal,nalbandian- sorry richard), made me feel the beginning of something. It is just so unthinkable for Roger to lose such important matches, but he lost those 3 big ones. Could Roger follow the steps of the first career of Hingis?
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no because ATP is not the WTA
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I agree with MJ, hard to compare WTA with ATP... Power is very important in ATP tennis nowadays, so it shouldn't increase a lot in a near future. In WTA, players are stronger now, and that's a main reason why Martina began to dominate WTA less... In ATP it cannot happen, just ask Roddick or Ljubo if their power really help them against Roger...
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Re: Hingis and Federer??

Being both from Switzerland and playing an allcourt-allsurface game, triggers comparisons, but their individual careers and personal backgrounds are rather different. When did Martina win her first grand slam tourney? At 15, maybe 16, while Roger is a rather late starter, winning his first Wimledon at 22. It is much more diffivult to digest the kind of success she had at that young age. I also agree with the WTA/ATP argument.
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Hingis ankle injury played a role as well... feeling something like the end of Roger's era just because he lost 3 tough matches is a bit rich. He's beaten or tied tons of record, one of them being entering the semi of 4 slams in a year, so it's the begining of nothing, just the continuation of his prime as an athlete...

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well i dont see it happening for atleast 3 years
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I wouldn`t rule out the possibilty of another player stepping up next year and beating Rogi in more key matches. Tennis is unpredictable and the other players know Rogi very well now and though he is the supreme player, he is beatable and a few key opponents, Nalby, Gasq and Nadal will go into 2006 with the knowledge they can beat him and great confidence after succesful 2005 seasons.
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Hingis ankle injury played a role as well... feeling something like the end of Roger's era just because he lost 3 tough matches is a bit rich. He's beaten or tied tons of record, one of them being entering the semi of 4 slams in a year, so it's the begining of nothing, just the continuation of his prime as an athlete...
Martina Hingis had to retire in 2002 because of physical injuries which required surgery in 2001 and 2002. Similarly Roger Federer seems to have a lot of physical problems recently with his ankle and feet. I could see injury shortening Roger Federer's career like it forced Martina Hingis out of tennis.
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The only loss that Federer should really be worried about this year was the one to Nadal at the French. Against Safin and Nalbandian he had a slight injury, it was their best surface, they both played near their best, it went to five sets and yet he still should have won.

Though I do think this year has highlighted the only players that can give Federer trouble are players with great groundstrokes with unbelievable backhands (epecially the backhand down the line).
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Hingis' problems was physical - she didn't have the power of the williams sisters
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I could see injury shortening Roger Federer's career like it forced Martina Hingis out of tennis.
It is a possibility for any other player as well. If he cuts a bit smaller tournaments, I think he can go on healthy, he's got a very fluid game (unlike Nadal) and doesn't have a big frame that requires energy to move around and stop a la Safin, so I don't see him proner than anyone to serious injuries.

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Hingis wasn't necessarily the best even when she was winning a good deal of tournaments. There were many aspects of her game she could have improved on. Roger on the other hand is as complete a player as you can find with hardly any weaknesses. Obviously like everyone he does have his weakness, but it isn't so bad that player others can exploit it on a regular basis. The guy lost only 4 matches, and people are starting to get concerned. That surely is a sign of his invincibility.
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Hingis couldn't cope with the power game of the williams sisters, davenport and capriati....she was way out of the dominating zone when she had to retire as a result of her injury.
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Re: Hingis and Federer??

It's quite complicated really. WTA is so much different from the ATP but some similarities can be found...but Roger is...Roger. But of course, I consider that the 2006 season will be a very interesting one. And honestly I believe Roger will lose mare than 4 matches, like he did this year.

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Re: Hingis and Federer??

We can't compare both cases since in female tennis the physical power is much more important and decisive than in male tennis
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