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Orange Bowl Day 1 report (Young vs. Arnould and Alvarado vs. Antabi)

I'm putting this in GM cause no one ever looks into the juniors forum.

The Nasdaq site looks so wierd. There's no bleachers anywhere except for court 1 (only seats like 200 at most). The Grandstand somehow has disappeared completely. There's also a million claycourts that I didn't know existed. I got there with some friends around 3pm. Honestly I didn't recognize any of the players there so we just went to court 1 and watched both of the matches that were there.

Alvarado vs. Antabi 6-3 6-1 (Boy's 16s): I think this match shows how good these kids acutally are. The higher ranked of the two, Antabi, is outside of the top600 in the world in the u18 rankings - Alvarado is unranked. Both were really consistent. The difference was the Alvarado had a better transition game. His volleys were surprisingly good. He won it easily after a couple of tight opening games, 6-3 6-1.

Young def. Arnould 6-4 7-6(5): Not as good a match as I had hope. Young came out of fire . He was hitting winners from everywhere and totally neutralizing Arnould's big serve. Young got up two breaks (3*-0), but there just became too passive. After Arnould broke back for 3-3, Young threw his racquet and got called for racquet abuse. Young then regained his composure and Arnould kinda choked away his serve when he saw he had a chance to take the set. Towards that end of the set, Young kept yelling out "D.Y." whenever he went for a winner. At one point, he hit a drop shot and yelled out "how good is that" . Anyways, second set. Arnould had a really good start and got up an early break after a huge forehand pass down the line. But again, with a chance to take a set, he faltered, missed a ton of first serves and just couldn't keep the ball in the court. It went to a tiebreak. Arnould got up 3*-0 in the tb thanks to a big serve, a big return, and another forehand pass winner. He then double faulted and missed an easy approach. Young took advantage and eventually rallied to get up 6*-4. At that point he hit a forehand that looked like a winner and screamed out "come on!" Arnould got to the ball and put up a lob which sailed wide. The ump claimed that Young distracted his opponent with his scream and Young lost the point. On the next match point, Arnould went for a backhand down the line winner which sailed just wide.

There was also a girl's doubles match going on on the neighboring court. No clue who was playing, but it was easily a four hour match that ended 6-4 4-6 6-2. Longest, most boring rallies ever

my favorite was the worst number 3 player in the world
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Re: Orange Bowl Day 1 report (Young vs. Arnould and Alvarado vs. Antabi)

Brilliant idea Croat123. Why not give some attention to the juniors? What the heck, it's the end of the year!

Did you happen to notice if there was a young player by the name of Gail Brodsky in this event? She's the cousin of a friend of mine and I'm curious to know more about her game.
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Re: Orange Bowl Day 1 report (Young vs. Arnould and Alvarado vs. Antabi)

Does young have one-hand or two-hand backhand?
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Two handed-backhand.
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Re: Orange Bowl Day 1 report (Young vs. Arnould and Alvarado vs. Antabi)

Here's a link to the USTA. You can read the draws.


http://www.usta.com/juniors/fullstor...iNewsid=271257

My friends cousin - Gail Brodsky - is 14 years old and has wild card into the 18's draw. Her first match is against the #2 seed. Go Gail!


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Re: Orange Bowl Day 1 report (Young vs. Arnould and Alvarado vs. Antabi)

if i go tomorrow (which i probably won't cause i have class all day) i'll go to her match

otherwise, i'll be there on wednesday and friday. if she falls out to the second seed maybe she'll be in doubles

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two-handed. very nice motion. he hit some great cross-court passes

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Donald Young sounds like an egotistical punk kid, egotistical on what grounds ? Hm, how was your 2005 U.S Open again Donny boy ?
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Donald Young sounds like an egotistical punk kid, egotistical on what grounds ? Hm, how was your 2005 U.S Open again Donny boy ?
I've practiced on the court next to him, he is.

His coach struggles to keep him concentrating during practice. That said he does have a disgusting amount of talent. Harnessing it, working hard, getting his stamina up, etc. is the hard part now.

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I'm putting this in GM cause no one ever looks into the juniors forum.

The Nasdaq site looks so wierd. There's no bleachers anywhere except for court 1 (only seats like 200 at most). The Grandstand somehow has disappeared completely. There's also a million claycourts that I didn't know existed. I got there with some friends around 3pm. Honestly I didn't recognize any of the players there so we just went to court 1 and watched both of the matches that were there.

Alvarado vs. Antabi 6-3 6-1 (Boy's 16s): I think this match shows how good these kids acutally are. The higher ranked of the two, Antabi, is outside of the top600 in the world in the u18 rankings - Alvarado is unranked. Both were really consistent. The difference was the Alvarado had a better transition game. His volleys were surprisingly good. He won it easily after a couple of tight opening games, 6-3 6-1.

Young def. Arnould 6-4 7-6(5): Not as good a match as I had hope. Young came out of fire . He was hitting winners from everywhere and totally neutralizing Arnould's big serve. Young got up two breaks (3*-0), but there just became too passive. After Arnould broke back for 3-3, Young threw his racquet and got called for racquet abuse. Young then regained his composure and Arnould kinda choked away his serve when he saw he had a chance to take the set. Towards that end of the set, Young kept yelling out "D.Y." whenever he went for a winner. At one point, he hit a drop shot and yelled out "how good is that" . Anyways, second set. Arnould had a really good start and got up an early break after a huge forehand pass down the line. But again, with a chance to take a set, he faltered, missed a ton of first serves and just couldn't keep the ball in the court. It went to a tiebreak. Arnould got up 3*-0 in the tb thanks to a big serve, a big return, and another forehand pass winner. He then double faulted and missed an easy approach. Young took advantage and eventually rallied to get up 6*-4. At that point he hit a forehand that looked like a winner and screamed out "come on!" Arnould got to the ball and put up a lob which sailed wide. The ump claimed that Young distracted his opponent with his scream and Young lost the point. On the next match point, Arnould went for a backhand down the line winner which sailed just wide.

There was also a girl's doubles match going on on the neighboring court. No clue who was playing, but it was easily a four hour match that ended 6-4 4-6 6-2. Longest, most boring rallies ever
Thanks for the review. I've read a lot of promising things about Donald Young, but he sounds rather full of himself .



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Anybody who yells out their initials when hitting a winner automatically makes my list of favourites.

I lack direction.

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Thanks for the review. I've read a lot of promising things about Donald Young, but he sounds rather full of himself .
Sure, but can you blame him?

I lack direction.

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Anybody who yells out their initials when hitting a winner automatically makes my list of favourites.
I tend to have similar sentiments.

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Pff, what an arrogant bloke.

And he's a guy who struggles to win matches on the junior tour as well.

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By the way, did you see anything of Leonardo Mayer's match? It's a shocking result that he is out already

Anyways, best of luck to Dusan Lojda, Marin Cilic & Rasid Winklaar.

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