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Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

A few times in history, a player has had one critical loss and they have never been the same player again. Most people will probably be thinking that he will get over it, but mentally, Roger could be more affected than he'll let on.

Roger only lost four matches in 05, but they were all of importance- RG SF, AO SF, TMC F. Plus, the finals win streak is gone, and he won't ever be ableto match that, or J-Mac's win/loss % again.

Now I'm not saying that Roger will sink like the Titanic, but it isn't out of the question that next year he might only pick up one slam. He might even return to his former mentally fragile state (90's - 02).
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

John McEnroe after that incredible year of 1984 never won another grand slam. A fact that most observers of tennis consider to be incredible. Possibly, the physical and mental energy required to achieve that domination is so exhausting that John had to reduce his intensity. Roger Federer could also suffer from the exhaustion of success.

I do not think that the master cup's defeat will hurt Roger's confidence. The limitations in the final were more physical than mental. In reality, after the ankle injury and consequent restrictions in training, it was always going to be difficult to survive a long 5 set match.

Probably, the physical condition of his body worries him more than how he mentally handled the final.
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

I don't think it will affect him.

Roger said a lot of things in his post-match interview that relate to this question. I don't think he is spending a lot of time contemplating how much he sucks at tennis now that he lost the final. He knows that he's still got it. It's not as if he was dominated at all by Nalbandian.

I think it may have him a bit less confident at the AO, but that's about as far as I would suggest the effects would carry.

Is it possible it will affect him for the rest of his career? Yeah. Is it even close to likely? No.
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

Nah - he clearly wasn't playing all that well and he had little confidence in his ankle. The start to 2006 may be a little but slow for his standards, but I expect him to win at least 1 Slam next year and at least 8 titles in total.
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heck no! He lost cuz he didnt paly consistently! He just recovered from ankle injury at that time. He's confident when he's 100% healthy.
He'll gain at least 1 grand slam title, probably 2.
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

Not at all- he was lucky to be able to play and he always knew that he wasn't 100% and it would be a struggle especially in a best of five sets match against Nalbandian. Had he been physically fit, had led 2-0 sets, 5-1 40-0 and then failed to close it out from a position in which he was dominating, I am sure it would have had a bigger impact. But despite being up two sets to love it was never a match one felt he had in his control at any stage.

As long as he is physically back to 100% and moving normally I expect he will start the next year looking to make a statement and do so with a flourish.
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

I think the question should be: Who would like the TMC Loss to Affect Federer Forever?

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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

Nah...not at all.

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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

Definitely NOT....what will effect Roger is the level of health he can maintain, specifically his feet/ankle, and as a corollary, the level of fitness he can bring to the court, depending on the state of the former. Otherwise there is nothing lacking, cetainly not mentally.
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

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I think the question should be: Who would like the TMC Loss to Affect Federer Forever?
haaaaaaaa, that's a good one
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

Most certainly not. In my opinion the AO loss was a tougher one, and he rebounded pretty well from that one, no?

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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

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I think the question should be: Who would like the TMC Loss to Affect Federer Forever?
Lleyton Hewitt, for sure
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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

well I would like to put this issue raised in a different way
will federer be able to continue & dominate provided the injuries & setback & a handful of competitors
I think if anything the TMS loss showed one thing for sure (in my persective)
Federer is clearly better than the rest but still he has to be in to condition & fully fit to compete. & than a not 100% fit federer cannt expect or will win. Wimbledon05 was the exception & not likely to happen again. It was one of his poorest display in a GS win showing the level of the competition
Its not whether he will dominate for years to come but more can he_ injuries & the like are to be expected

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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

I think many people are reading too far into his TMC loss.

If he is as great of a player as everyone says he is, it shouldn't matter one bit.

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Re: Will TMC Loss Affect Federer Forever?

It's the Off Season........very easy to recognise.

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