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Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

All of these withdraws, I feel bad for the promoters, the YEC have went to the dumps. It's a joke now, unless you fancy hanging around and listening to Roger talk (which I'd be fine with), what is there to see?

Agassi is gone.
Hewitt is gone.
Safin is gone.
Roddick is gone.
Nadal is gone.



Aside from Lleyton, whom we can't fault for knocking boots, every other player has fallen victim to injury. If this isn't an outcry for some type of intervention by the tour then I don't know what is. Shorten the season.
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

no, its a freak season

they used to play until Mid-December until about 1994 or so.
the Grand Slam Cup which everyone died to play was the last event of the yr, 2 weeks after DC finals.

they never had problems then.
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

On the other hand, Davydenko played 29 tournaments and is fine... This year has simply been a freak year for injuries.
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

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no, its a freak season

they used to play until Mid-December until about 1994 or so.
the Grand Slam Cup which everyone died to play was the last event of the yr, 2 weeks after DC finals.

they never had problems then.
The game has changed a heck of a lot since 1994 even if the people running tennis aren't aware of it. Wooden racquets aren't coming back. Speed and power as well as finesse are what counts now. This type of play produces a lot of wear and tear on the body and that is why the injury count is so high. Despite what Ljubo said I saw Fed/Nalbandian and that surface is fast. I believe he also said you couldn't get any traction on it and that it was closer to grass in how it played. Something does need to be done about the length of the tour.

It's also a shame that Puerta is playing with a cloud over his head and that he has a chance to win this and then face a permanent ban if the rumors are true.
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

I don't think the ATP (or the WTA) needs to shorten the season. My problem with the scheduling concerns back to back TMS (IW/Miami and Madrid/Paris) but otherwise I hold the players hugely responsible for their own schedules.

Players are always going to get injured but they also need to allow themselves proper time to heal before returning to the circuit.
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

The season has turned into an endurance test, rather than tennis. The ATP is shooting their own players in the foot!
Shorten the season, the matches -anything at his point! Right now all that the ATP is shortening is the career of its top players.
Second rate players winning year end tournaments is not good for the sport.
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The game has changed a heck of a lot since 1994 even if the people running tennis aren't aware of it. Wooden racquets aren't coming back. Speed and power as well as finesse are what counts now. This type of play produces a lot of wear and tear on the body and that is why the injury count is so high. Despite what Ljubo said I saw Fed/Nalbandian and that surface is fast. I believe he also said you couldn't get any traction on it and that it was closer to grass in how it played. Something does need to be done about the length of the tour.

It's also a shame that Puerta is playing with a cloud over his head and that he has a chance to win this and then face a permanent ban if the rumors are true.
there werent any wooden racquets back in 1994, they went out nearly 20 yrs ago.
serve & volley puts alot more stress on you then any baseline game ever will.

and Puerta couldnt win this event even if there was 7 girls in the tourn.
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

Andre hasn't played since the US Open. Fed injured his ankle in practice and called it "bad luck". What does that have to do with the long season? I don't think what happened this year is because the season is too long.

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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

It has everything to do with the long season.

The game has changed so you can't look at what happened even 10 years ago.

The entire tournament is a joke, and when you have a lot of players not playing in the last two masters series events, something is obviously wrong.

And what's wrong is that the season is too long!
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

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Andre hasn't played since the US Open. Fed injured his ankle in practice and called it "bad luck". What does that have to do with the long season? I don't think what happened this year is because the season is too long.
Most of these so-called "injuries" were never existent to begin with or completely blown out of proportion, used as a cop-out or a vacationing period. Andre doesn't care about anything aside from Slams at this point in his career, can't waste his time playing much of anything else aside from a warm up tourney or two.

I just don't buy lots of these injuries, with the exception of Safin I doubt the authenticity of the rest.
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Most of these so-called "injuries" were never existent to begin with or completely blown out of proportion, used as a cop-out or a vacationing period. Andre doesn't care about anything aside from Slams at this point in his career, can't waste his time playing much of anything else aside from a warm up tourney or two.

I just don't buy lots of these injuries, with the exception of Safin I doubt the authenticity of the rest.
Yeah, I suppose Roger used crutches and is now using an ankle brace just to keep perpetuating the lie that he injured himself. And the 6 weeks off after Wimbledon just wasn't enough vacation....

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to say as fact these injuries were never existent is bs.....how do any of us really know?

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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

You think this is a mess? Wait until we have the Croatian basketball team playing the Slovak football team for the davis cup due to injuries.
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Yeah, I suppose Roger used crutches and is now using an ankle brace just to keep perpetuating the lie that he injured himself. And the 6 weeks off after Wimbledon just wasn't enough vacation....

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to say as fact these injuries were never existent is bs.....how do any of us really know?
Agree completely. Cannot stand it when people think that Roger's injuries are non-existent or out of proportion. Please, the man walked on crutches for 2 weeks.
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Agassi is gone.
Hewitt is gone.
Safin is gone.
Roddick is gone.
Nadal is gone.
With exception of Nadal neither of these players overplayed. And Nadal has only himself to blame.. Played too much of crappy clay.. Also having too much of muscle mass inevitably bring some pain to legs and feet that hav to carry that mass. No other tennis player has that.. and for a reason..
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Re: Will the ATP shorten the season after this mess?

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Yeah, I suppose Roger used crutches and is now using an ankle brace just to keep perpetuating the lie that he injured himself. And the 6 weeks off after Wimbledon just wasn't enough vacation....

Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to say as fact these injuries were never existent is bs.....how do any of us really know?
Crutches ? Merely a prop. Nobody will ever really know, which is precisely why the masses shouldn't base their opinions on the timing of these so-called "injuries", especially when there's been an awful lot of speculation and an argument could be made for both sides that would be plausible.
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