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Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

Since we've heard the comments about the court from those who don't like it, I thought Ivan deserved some equal time.
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Q. Guillermo just described the court
as like playing on ice.
IVAN LJUBICIC: Well, it's not that fast, I
mean.

Q. Is that almost like a sign of the
times in the sense that fast courts have been
slowed down so now playing on a medium
surface almost feels like playing on a fast
court?
IVAN LJUBICIC: Well, I guess so
because this is really not fast court. I mean, I
can accept that the court doesn't suit his game,
absolutely, because it's terrible for his game
because the topspin doesn't go up anything. I
mean, it's really difficult to move on the court
because it's really sticky, but it's not fast. I mean,
that's not the right word.
It doesn't suit his game, absolutely. I
confirm that. But I don't think it's fast really. If
you want to see fast court, come to Croatia
(smiling).

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Q. One more about the surface.
Some of the players are complaining about
the surface. You played in Paris. It is the
same surface. You played in Lyon two years
ago, it is the same surface. This year, too. Is
it very different from the one in France or is it
the same?
IVAN LJUBICIC: No, it's exactly the
same like one in Paris. It's absolutely exactly
the same. I mean, the problem of the surface is
that it's really different from other courts, not
these that you just mentioned, which is the same.
The surface is really sticky so you can't move.
It's really difficult to move on the court. And the
ball doesn't bounce, doesn't have natural
bounce. So it is strange.
I mean, we can complain also on grass, I
mean, because it's so strange surface we play
just couple weeks and that, and it's not natural. I
mean, we are not really feeling confident on the
court. But I think on this surface, we are playing
for a really long time. I remember even the
GreenSet Trophy before was like this. We play
our Davis Cup matches on this. And before we
had a lot of tournaments on these courts.
Maybe it just doesn't suit the guys who
are here, which, again, I can confirm. Because if
you try to rally and hit the ball back, you're not
going to be successful. So I think it suits maybe
three or four guys here, and we are eight. We
going to have a lot of complaining on the court I
think throughout the week.

Q. Given that it's a surface for the
end-of-year tournament where it's supposed
to be as fair as possible to everybody, do you
think perhaps it's the wrong choice of surface
or it could be improved on?
IVAN LJUBICIC: I mean, if I'm
tournament director, I would think about it. But I
don't know. I mean, if they put this surface, there
is a reason for that. I never played in a Masters
Cup before so I cannot compare. But, I mean,
this is what we get. It's the end of the season. I
think it's absolutely fair to have a Masters Cup
indoors because all Grand Slams are outdoors.
If you advantage one player, you
disadvantaging others. You are going to have
always someone who is complaining.
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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

Fair points
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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

where did u get that interview??????
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I got it from a secret place!


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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

* Agassi ,Nadal , Davydenko , Gaudio , Nalbandian , Coria say is fast

* Federer and Ljubo say isn't fast ( curiously both players have the best serve among the 8 players )
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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

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*What does Coria think ??
He said it's very fast.

OK, I didn't see you edited your post.

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He said it's very fast:
I've just corrected my previous message
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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

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* Agassi ,Nadal , Davydenko , Gaudio , Nalbandian , Coria say is fast

* Federer and Ljubo say isn't fast ( curiously both players have the best serve among the 8 players )
That's interesting, because from what I've seen the court is playing fairly fast, like most indoor courts.

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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

Compared to indoor courts of years past, especially the Singles Championship courts in Germany, this court is not fast.
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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

Well if it's the same as Paris, I agree with Ljubicic, then it's not fast.
It's among the fastest out there but i wouldn't call it fast either

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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

theres an interesting question about how courts hav slowed down and that this is actualy just an average fast court but seems really fast to the clayers because over time the courts hav slowed down.

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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

It's obvious that isn't the fastest court ever, but if Shanghai court isn't fast, and even Federer called it as half-slow , i would like to know if is there any fast surface on ATP tour nowadays ( not counting grass ) ??

Shanghai is played on a blue clay ?? , shanghai court is as slow as clay , then ? , shanghai court is as slow as hard courts, then ??

The fact that this court isn't the fastest ever doesn't mean this court isn't fast in comparison with the most of the surfaces in the current ATP ...

These days it seems fast and slow are synonyms

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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

the wimbledon courts this year were pretty slow

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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

TMS in Madrid have faster surface...
this surface is definitly fair..not too fast not too slow

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Re: Ivan Says the Shanghai Court Isn't Fast

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TMS in Madrid have faster surface...
this surface is definitly fair..not too fast not too slow
Are you sure Madrid is faster than Shanghai ??


It's funny , Nadal's haters ( i'n not accusing you ) said that Madrid was a very slow surface and if Shanghai is even slower than Madrid , i wonder if Shanghai is slower than Roland Garros ??

If the court is so slow, why Coria seemed to be playing on an alien court ?? . If the court is so slow and Coria is a claycouter and besides can play decent on hard, why he has played as horrible as possible against Ljubo ??
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