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An honest question about Roddick.

This is NOT A BASHING THREAD! Nothing in my question comes to offend Roddick or to praise Ivan or has relevance to the outcome of this match.

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What kind of a back injury can harm your movement but does not hurt you while you are serving? Is this normal? Do you really believe this injury is a real one? It really looked quite odd to me, in both this match and the Ferrer match, in which Roddick moved quite well despite complaining on his back.

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Re: An honest question about Roddick.

1. Roddick's serve relays a more on his arm
2. See the match again and notice how he landed after he jumped for serve. He was trying to avoid pain

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Re: An honest question about Roddick.

People must remember that he's been serving like that for years, a little pain won't change something that's branded in you.

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1. Roddick's serve relays a more on his arm
2. See the match again and notice how he landed after he jumped for serve. He was trying to avoid pain
And I'd say he really didn't move sideways too well, and the affected lower back-hip region doesn't hamper his serve that much except the landing
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1. Roddick's serve relays a more on his arm
2. See the match again and notice how he landed after he jumped for serve. He was trying to avoid pain
That, and his legs/knee bend. Andy said that the slice serve hurt him more than a flatter serve down the T did.
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Re: An honest question about Roddick.

Well, I'm a lousy recreational player and I've finished matches in pain, when I could barely move (I had to laugh once, I kind of pulled a hamstring and I was still hitting winners. I don't hit winners when I'm healthy!). If I can do it with nothing on the line except a cheesy little trophy, I can imagine that some of these guys can do it in more intense pain than that.

As for his specific injury, did he say it was a 'spine' thing? If so, I can imagine that impact moves and twisting hurt more than other types of movements.

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Re: An honest question about Roddick.

In my experience, I have lower back problems and have been playing tennis for a long time, when back pain erupts your serve is affected whether you arm the ball or not. Certainly it's impossible to serve at the same speed. Then again, roddick is a far, far better player than me, so, maybe he can compensate for the handicap effectively.

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Re: An honest question about Roddick.

You do not fire 230 kph serves using only your arm.

It's just... It honestly looked like an excuse. If he could play through the pain and dealt with it fine - then the injury is not to blame. If he couldn't play through the pain - how the hell did he hit those kind of shots?

I do have to say he looked in pain. But despite that - he hit 10 huge aces and other huge serves consistently! It's too weird.

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Roddick unsure about Masters Cup because of back pain

By Patrick Vignal Sat Nov 5,11:54 AM ET

PARIS, Nov 5 (Reuters) - World number three Andy Roddick fears he could miss the year-end Masters Cup because of back pain.
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Roddick was hampered by a sore back during his 6-3 7-5 defeat by Croatian Ivan Ljubicic in the semi-finals of the Paris Masters.

The American, who received treatment twice during the match, had also suffered in his quarter-final win over Spaniard David Ferrer on Friday.

"I don't know," Roddick said on Saturday when asked whether the injury might force him to pull out of the eight-strong season finale from Nov. 13 in Shanghai.

"I hope not but, obviously, I'm not as optimistic as I was two days ago. I'll go back, we'll treat it and if I feel like I can go, I'll go. If not, then I won't."

Roddick had said after beating Ferrer that he might not play Saturday's semi-final. He did but the pain soon returned.

"It felt okay walking around earlier in the day but as soon as I started moving, it just really stiffened up and made it tough to move and hit my shots," he said.

"It's low back, it's just tight. The doctor used a bunch of medical terms I'm not intelligent enough to understand. We're going to evaluate it again here and when I get home."

The former world number one, who has won five tournaments this year, said he would love to go to Shanghai.

"Most of all it's an honour to qualify (for the Masters Cup)," he said.

"It's very prestigious. The fact that you only have a handful of guys that are allowed to play makes it really special.

"Obviously, I don't think it's on par with Davis Cup or with a grand slam but it's very important. It's almost like a celebration for the year."

Ljubicic grabbed the last ticket to the Masters Cup by qualifying for the semi-finals in Paris on Friday.

The Croatian joined Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Roddick, Lleyton Hewitt, Andre Agassi, Guillermo Coria and Nikolay Davydenko in the Shanghai field.

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You do not fire 230 kph serves using only your arm.
ITA. When he serves he has to spring up and then land on one foot after the serve so that would jar his back.

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